2014/06/03 01:40:04
The Band19
I've enjoyed BFD for many years? However, I must say "they put the F" in BFD... "For me personally? And therefore, I'll be spending my $$ elsewhere, thank you... It's hard to make, and easy to spend? So IMO, people need to earn it...  In several ways, price, performance, and "service..." The 1st two, yeah, it's a no brainer? However, to me? Without #3, they can go "blank" themselves...
 
And in my case? Well... They (FXpansion) have driven me to other providers... I don't care how hot she is? Somewhere, there's someone who's tired of her shiz... And I'm tired of it...
2014/06/03 06:01:54
twaddle
The Band19
I've enjoyed BFD for many years? However, I must say "they put the F" in BFD... "For me personally? And therefore, I'll be spending my $$ elsewhere, thank you... It's hard to make, and easy to spend? So IMO, people need to earn it...  In several ways, price, performance, and "service..." The 1st two, yeah, it's a no brainer? However, to me? Without #3, they can go "blank" themselves...
 
And in my case? Well... They (FXpansion) have driven me to other providers... I don't care how hot she is? Somewhere, there's someone who's tired of her shiz... And I'm tired of it...




 
It may sound flippant I know but it truly is your loss, however I must say I am disappointed for you.
 
It does occasionally happen that emails from support are picked up by your junk mail/spam filter so you could check in there if you haven't already?
 
You could also have posted on the forum as sometimes it helps get a quicker response.
Perhaps you have already but I don't see any posts on there regarding new authorisations although
despite my asking you didn't tell me your forum name.
 
Hope whatever other drum vst you choose does it for you and their support shiz is everything you expect.
 
 
Steve
 
 
2014/06/03 15:05:07
John
BFD3 is wonderful. I was a very strong fan of BFD2 but BFD3 is just that much better.
 
As to service FXpansion is pretty good. I go back to the DR008 days. Plus with BFD you don't need a drum map. It creates its own. 
2014/06/03 15:46:48
SvenArne
I'm sort of interested in BFD3 since Superior 3.0 rumored to not be happening in ever...
 
Question: Can you make the hihat pedal play nice with E-drums? I've got a Roland TD-4K and when I played around with the demo I couldn't get anywhere near a satisfactory performance. The demo kit sounded great but the hihat just wasn't playable. I bought BFD Eco a couple years ago, but I've never really used it since I couldn't get the hihat to work right in there either...
 
The XLN and Toontrack products have always responded pretty much spot on right out of the box!
 
Sven
2014/06/03 19:24:43
twaddle
SvenArne
I'm sort of interested in BFD3 since Superior 3.0 rumored to not be happening in ever...
 
Question: Can you make the hihat pedal play nice with E-drums? I've got a Roland TD-4K and when I played around with the demo I couldn't get anywhere near a satisfactory performance. The demo kit sounded great but the hihat just wasn't playable. I bought BFD Eco a couple years ago, but I've never really used it since I couldn't get the hihat to work right in there either...
 
The XLN and Toontrack products have always responded pretty much spot on right out of the box!
 
Sven




Hi Sven
 
Are you saying there were problems with the BFD3 demo and your TD-4K ?
 
Did you load the TD-4K keymap ?
 
I know it takes a little setting up and I'm not an edrummer but all the posts and reviews I've read
relating to edrums have been very good and BFD3 is claimed to be a big improvement over BFD2.
 
If you've tried the demo and had problems it could just be a set up issue that someone of the BFD3 forum might be able to sort out. There's also the edrummers forum on the fxpansion site.
 
 
Steve
2014/06/03 20:27:30
AT
Heavyocity's DM-307.  Brand new.  If cinematic is something you are after, than this is it.  Along w/ all kinds of electronic-based music.  Really killer sounds/programming.  Uses Kontakt player if you don't have Kontakt.
 
If you just want to do old-style rock n roll, probably look elsewhere, tho.
 
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2014/06/03 20:53:54
Rain
AT
 
If you just want to do old-style rock n roll, probably look elsewhere, tho.
 



Kontakt player + Abbey Road series. 
 
I hate working with Kontakt and it's got nothing on any of the other drums software, but sound-wise, these are my favorite kits, short of buying BFD and Platinum Samples' Evil Joe Barresi's kits.
2014/06/04 11:05:55
twaddle
SvenArne
I'm sort of interested in BFD3 since Superior 3.0 rumored to not be happening in ever...
 
Question: Can you make the hihat pedal play nice with E-drums? I've got a Roland TD-4K and when I played around with the demo I couldn't get anywhere near a satisfactory performance. The demo kit sounded great but the hihat just wasn't playable. I bought BFD Eco a couple years ago, but I've never really used it since I couldn't get the hihat to work right in there either...
 
The XLN and Toontrack products have always responded pretty much spot on right out of the box!
 
Sven




Talking of what might seem on the surface to be an abandonment or disregard for further Superior Drummer development by toontrack (no superior drummer 3) it's worth noting that the BFD3 forum already has an official "feature request " sticky up and running as if further proof were required that fxpasnion don't just sit on their hands all day or rest on their laurels, onwards and upwards 
 
 
Steve
 
 
 
2014/06/04 15:16:13
SvenArne
twaddle
 
Hi Sven
 
Are you saying there were problems with the BFD3 demo and your TD-4K ?
 
Did you load the TD-4K keymap ?
 
I know it takes a little setting up and I'm not an edrummer but all the posts and reviews I've read
relating to edrums have been very good and BFD3 is claimed to be a big improvement over BFD2.
 
If you've tried the demo and had problems it could just be a set up issue that someone of the BFD3 forum might be able to sort out. There's also the edrummers forum on the fxpansion site.
 
 
Steve




I downloaded the BFD3 Demo again and played around some more. I'm beginning to believe the BFD3 demo is crippled beyond representability!
 
When triggering the hihat pedal note the resulting sample is definitely a stick hit and not a pedal chick. And on top of that said sample varies wildly in volume. This is independent of the loaded keymap. This makes it impossible for me to play a nice feeling groove on the drums with the "pedal" sample poking me in the ear at all times.
 
Furthermore, repeated snare hits sound extremely "machinegunny" and unrealistic at lower velocities. I must only assume that this is a result of the slimming of velocity layers and alternate hit content in the demo.
 
Compared to EZdrummer 2 which I'm also demoing these days, BFD3 feels very poor indeed when played with my Rolands. Not a good way to showcase a flagship product!
 
I hope and expect the full package to be much better, but I just can't buy BFD3 based on this demo, sorry!
 
Sven
 
 
2014/06/04 18:03:21
twaddle
When triggering the hihat pedal note the resulting sample is definitely a stick hit and not a pedal chick. And on top of that said sample varies wildly in volume. This is independent of the loaded keymap. This makes it impossible for me to play a nice feeling groove on the drums with the "pedal" sample poking me in the ear at all times.
 
Furthermore, repeated snare hits sound extremely "machinegunny" and unrealistic at lower velocities. I must only assume that this is a result of the slimming of velocity layers and alternate hit content in the demo.
 
Compared to EZdrummer 2 which I'm also demoing these days, BFD3 feels very poor indeed when played with my Rolands. Not a good way to showcase a flagship product!
 
I hope and expect the full package to be much better, but I just can't buy BFD3 based on this demo, sorry!
 
Sven



 
I would post this on the BFD3 forum as it sounds like it's not set up right with the hi-hat.
 
As for the machine gunning it's quite possibly to do with the reduced velocity layers, also the snare in this demo is limited to 1 articulation. Is A.M.G (anti machine gun mode) enabled in the dashboard.
That might also help though with reduced velocity layers might be minimal difference.
 
You're right though the demo is very limited but I wouldn't even begin to compare it with EZdrummer 2, different thing altogether. I find EZdrummer 2 very underwhelming and I can't think of any features apart from tap to find that can't be found in BFD3.
 
Steve
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