It's really different strokes for different folks I guess? I wasn't looking for an absolute, but rather a relative reference. The problem (as I see it is) people become such champions for what they believe, that they refuse to even hear an opposing opinion? That is unfortunate. Because, I don't know that one is "THAT" much better or worse? Just different things work better for different people (IMO). And it's really a starting point, because of all of the other SW available once the drums are tracked. It's unfortunate, I wasn't trying to start a religious debate? Just trying to see what people like, and why. But I guess that is a religious debate in the end. 

twaddle
 
I would post this on the BFD3 forum as it sounds like it's not set up right with the hi-hat.
 
As for the machine gunning it's quite possibly to do with the reduced velocity layers, also the snare in this demo is limited to 1 articulation. Is A.M.G (anti machine gun mode) enabled in the dashboard.
That might also help though with reduced velocity layers might be minimal difference.
 

Yes, looks like more research is in order. I did not have time to play much with the settings last night.
 

You're right though the demo is very limited but I wouldn't even begin to compare it with EZdrummer 2, different thing altogether. I find EZdrummer 2 very underwhelming and I can't think of any features apart from tap to find that can't be found in BFD3.

Yeah, I'm not comparing them in terms of features. Obviously, BFD3 is the most feature-laden drumpler out there, that's why I'm interested! But still, the EZD2 demo feels pretty great while recording and the BFD3 demo does not! That is very important for me!

Superior Drummer just updated to 2.4 yesterday. No real improvements sound wise. It just makes it capable of playing the EZD2 kits and there are upgrades for the older versions of EZD1 kits. Maybe there is some stirring around at Toontrack to work on version 3. I never had EZD so to me there was no reason to get it. EZD2 looks interesting but not enough to spend money. I have the old BFD Eco that I play around with from time to time and I have played with BFD 3 at a friends' studio. I like BFD but not enough to pay $150 just to jump from Eco to 3. I have AD1 and 2. 2 just doesn't sound as good as 1 to my ear. Maybe it's because the kits are the same as the ones that came in one just broken into separate downloads. It just doesn't have the fidelity that 1 has. I'm sure the newer kits sampled for AD2 will sound better. I'm still hanging in there with Superior for now.

Sidroe
I have AD1 and 2. 2 just doesn't sound as good as 1 to my ear.

I couldn't hear any difference, except the reverb FX seem to have been improved. Do you have any extra ADpaks? IMO the stock kits are vastly inferior to all the ADpaks I've tried!

TheBand19, In looking at your very first post, I am inclined to agree with twaddle.Are you giving Fxpansion enough slack?.....customer service at a large company can sometimes be overwhelming in trying to address each individual need,and for something they already sold and made a profit on long ago. Most of them do a pretty good job, but sometimes they might need an extra nudge. I wouldn't give up on them if you like their products. I don't think they intentionally make things difficult for customers. I would be willing to bet that they would work with you if they know the situation.
 
It seems as if you might be considering jumping ship...if you do that and find something else, that's great, but I don't think you'll find any better sounding drums than BFD IMO.

Starise
TheBand19, In looking at your very first post, I am inclined to agree with twaddle.Are you giving Fxpansion enough slack?

 
I PM'd him after speaking with Drew_fx about licensing and customer service.
Drew has asked him to contact tech support as they don't have any email from him so it's up to TheBand19 from here on in.
 

It seems as if you might be considering jumping ship...if you do that and find something else, that's great, but I don't think you'll find any better sounding drums than BFD IMO.

 
Not much to argue with there
 
 
Steve

Sorry, wrong post

When triggering the hihat pedal note the resulting sample is definitely a stick hit and not a pedal chick. And on top of that said sample varies wildly in volume.

 
Aha, I've just discovered that this particular hi-hat seems to have no pedal articulation as well as a couple of others that are missing. that seems a bit daft if you ask me and not sure what their reasoning would be as for edrummers like your self that kind of thing makes a big difference but rest assured the Paiste signature hi-hat I have has 13 articulations.
 
Hope that helps if only to stop you wasting time trying to get it set up right.
 
 
Steve

twaddle
Aha, I've just discovered that this particular hi-hat seems to have no pedal articulation as well as a couple of others that are missing. that seems a bit daft if you ask me and not sure what their reasoning would be as for edrummers like your self that kind of thing makes a big difference but rest assured the Paiste signature hi-hat I have has 13 articulations.

Hope that helps if only to stop you wasting time trying to get it set up right.


Steve

Thanks for clearing that up for me! Pretty silly to leave out the pedal sample if you ask me! While googling I found this thread on the Vdrums forum:
 
http://www.vdrums.com/forum/forum/advanced/vst-samples/69131-bfd3-official-thread/page3
 
Looks like those who have tried the demo have a lot of the same complaints as I do, while those who've actually bought the product seem very happy!
 
I wish the demo were better so I wouldn't need to take such a leap of faith! They should've included only one kit but fleshed that one out properly! 

Thanks for clearing that up for me! Pretty silly to leave out the pedal sample if you ask me! While googling I found this thread on the Vdrums forum:
 
http://www.vdrums.com/forum/forum/advanced/vst-samples/69131-bfd3-official-thread/page3
 
Looks like those who have tried the demo have a lot of the same complaints as I do, while those who've actually bought the product seem very happy!
 
I wish the demo were better so I wouldn't need to take such a leap of faith! They should've included only one kit but fleshed that one out properly!

 
Interesting thread and although some opinions seem to be born from misunderstanding I can understand their frustration. It seems that some of these guys are using BFD3 purely with their edrums for rehearsal or performance only and not for recording or mixing so obviously these limitations are a massive disappointment for them.
 
I don't know what was behind fxpansions decision to throttle the demo so much but I'm guessing it might have been partly due to download size, I think it's something like 2.9GB but I would have thought most people would have been quite happy to have a much larger download of say 5GB maybe even up to 10GB although I think that would get a lot of complaints from people on slower broadband.
 
Other than that it might be that edrummers represent a smaller portion of their userbase and so they took that bullet.
 
Still, the last few posters on that thread seems more than happy but of course they has the full version.
 
Steve