2014/04/30 13:23:29
drewfx1

2014/04/30 13:25:30
Moshkiae
craigb
Moshkiae
I could help Bapu use his voice if he wanted me to. 

 
Pedro:  "Repeat after me, 'Would you like fries with that?'"
Bapu:  "Would you like fries with ... that?"
Pedro:  "Now don't be afraid to speak with confidence!  Let's try that again. 'Would you like fries with that?'"
 





It's a bit more than that, although breath breaks are a good way to start. In your example, one could even put the accent on "like", or "fries" or "with that" to create different feels for the same set of words.
 
This, by the way, is an exercise that is thoroughly used in places like the "National Theater", "Royal Shakespeare Company"  and other well define theatrical environments. The American style is centered way too much on the emotional side (The Acting Theater) and that was very effective for a long time and helped give rise to Edward Albee, Tennessee Williams, and several others.
 
I have tried to show you guys this in music as well. You take the same 16 notes, and play them with love. Then play them with hate. then play them while vacuuming your room, and so forth. The piece changes dramatically and is one of the best exercises there is to "learn" how to interpret the notes in any piece of music, just like it is in theater, to learn how to express things in a way that is clear and concise instead of just looking like you are reading notes, or reading a script. THIS is the major difference between the really good ones and the rest.
2014/04/30 13:27:30
Beagle
drewfx1
Beagle
this thread was partially done in jest as a spin on the thread "I am giving up" by david saying he was giving up singing.
 



I don't about singing, but maybe you should SERIOUSLY think about giving up on jesting, 'cause you obviously suck at it. 
 



not as bad as you...
 
just sayin'...
 

2014/04/30 13:28:30
Beagle
Starise
Hey Reece , I listened to one of your songs a long time ago. It was ok I thought, certainly not the kind of thing to be attacked as bad. Lets face it, only a small percentage of the population have really good pipes...the rest of us have to really work at it to improve. The fact that you are singing on a regular basis is probably one of the best things you can do. Keep those pipes active and healthy. 
With so much talent out there now I think the bar is higher. I hear my stuff and I think ..meh...doesn't really reach out and pinch me. It works for some things better than others. I don't want to be  meh so I'll keep at it for the fun of it. I was singing with a female vocalist this past week and she took me to a different level somehow. I can't explain it, but she added some kind of energy that transferred to me.People commented afterwards. It's like in the studio it's meh, but going out with the right people and combinations takes it up a notch or two...brings out something that I didn't know I had....then it's back to the studio and...meh..the difference between feeling it and singing it is huge.
 
 


I believe it's that confidence that randy mentioned.  confidence can be shared.
2014/04/30 13:31:57
drewfx1
Beagle
not as bad as you...
 
just sayin'...
 




2014/04/30 13:47:21
Danny Danzi
Beagle
Specifically responding to Danny and Rain:
 
this thread was partially done in jest as a spin on the thread "I am giving up" by david saying he was giving up singing.
 
but everything I wrote is true, I have been told numerous times in the forum and by others in person that I cannot sing.  it wasn't even Pistol Pete, but another "colorful character" who dons the songs forum.
 
Since the time I was "fired" from the voluntary singing gig the 2nd time (by a different leader than the first time), I decided it was time to figure out what was wrong, so I took 3 years (6 semesters) worth of private voice lessons.  that was since I started posting songs here in the songs forum, too.  my voice lessons were from about 2009 to 2011.
 
after that I joined a church where the leader gave me the opportunity to learn to ad lib harmony parts every week.  after about a year and a half of that, I joined the church I'm at now where I sing on praise team on a rotation every 3 weeks, but I'm also allowed to lead the service every other Wednesday night and the Sunday service whenever the staff leader is out.
 
The problem wasn't that these people were wrong - it's that they were right and that I needed to learn how to sing.  I sang in my throat and I was off pitch often.  I've learned to control that mostly, but I'm still learning every day I sing!
 
the point however, is that listening to others tell me that I can't sing did not deter me from singing, it made me more determined to do it!  it made me seek help and learn from those who knew I had potential and helped bring it out of me.
 
I"m not saying I"m "there" - I'm sure there are still a few people who will still say I can't sing.  that's OK.  I"m still learning and they will not deter me.  they are the wind beneath my wings!




Ah, ok. That's one thing I seem to forget about the Coffee House...quite a bit is said in "jest" and I end up taking it a bit too serious. For the parts that were serious...just do what you do. If all the birds in the forest chirped the same song...oh what a boring place the world would be. However, if a few of those birds chirp a song that is really driving you crazy...shoot 'em! :)
 
-Danny
2014/04/30 16:27:48
Beagle
Danny Danzi
Beagle
Specifically responding to Danny and Rain:
 
this thread was partially done in jest as a spin on the thread "I am giving up" by david saying he was giving up singing.
 
but everything I wrote is true, I have been told numerous times in the forum and by others in person that I cannot sing.  it wasn't even Pistol Pete, but another "colorful character" who dons the songs forum.
 
Since the time I was "fired" from the voluntary singing gig the 2nd time (by a different leader than the first time), I decided it was time to figure out what was wrong, so I took 3 years (6 semesters) worth of private voice lessons.  that was since I started posting songs here in the songs forum, too.  my voice lessons were from about 2009 to 2011.
 
after that I joined a church where the leader gave me the opportunity to learn to ad lib harmony parts every week.  after about a year and a half of that, I joined the church I'm at now where I sing on praise team on a rotation every 3 weeks, but I'm also allowed to lead the service every other Wednesday night and the Sunday service whenever the staff leader is out.
 
The problem wasn't that these people were wrong - it's that they were right and that I needed to learn how to sing.  I sang in my throat and I was off pitch often.  I've learned to control that mostly, but I'm still learning every day I sing!
 
the point however, is that listening to others tell me that I can't sing did not deter me from singing, it made me more determined to do it!  it made me seek help and learn from those who knew I had potential and helped bring it out of me.
 
I"m not saying I"m "there" - I'm sure there are still a few people who will still say I can't sing.  that's OK.  I"m still learning and they will not deter me.  they are the wind beneath my wings!




Ah, ok. That's one thing I seem to forget about the Coffee House...quite a bit is said in "jest" and I end up taking it a bit too serious. For the parts that were serious...just do what you do. If all the birds in the forest chirped the same song...oh what a boring place the world would be. However, if a few of those birds chirp a song that is really driving you crazy...shoot 'em! :)
 
-Danny



 

2014/04/30 16:41:33
craigb
Beagle
 





"He's out of tune on purpose!!!" 
2014/04/30 18:40:36
soens
Beagle
I will NOT give up.  NO man will tell me what I can and cannot do.



I was going to tell you you can't give up, but then I read this and decided it wouldn't do any good...
 

 
2014/05/01 17:58:56
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