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2014/06/01 20:16:06
JohnKenn
Bumping my thread as it decays to the bottom of the bird cage, page 2, and into obscurity.
 
Few slow notes on a guitar in the oil tank. Only effect was the oil tank. Cut the reverb to about 11 seconds since the 75 sec file was more than overkill. Download file I posted was cut by me to 35 seconds of the decay.
 
Cakewalk Perfect Space was the most reliable to initially import the file, but latency was a factor for real time processing. Used Reverberate full version to import the file and cut it to the 11 second length.
 
http://en.swoopshare.com/file/d1f71c80d4e8611b13e9da4204a28ed8/Scotland.mp3.html
 
Significance of this is that it is real world. Easy to warp stuff digitally and can get the same or better than this with Valhalla, but still a miracle that these sound scapes exist for real in the material realm.
 
This gun shot in the oil tank supposedly dethroned the previous front runner. Some heathen cathedral in Europe that did a 15 second reverb tail recorded from slamming the front door.
 
Scotland oil depot is king of the realm until we discover something else out there.
 
Love to all,
 
John
 
2014/06/02 18:12:10
bitflipper
Sounds pretty cool. Don't know how you'd ever fit it into a mix, though. Of course, that's the problem with 80% of the presets in Valhalla UberMod - they're useless unless it's a solo instrument, but still fun to play with.
2014/06/02 18:20:22
mixmkr
mono file?
2014/06/02 18:30:36
mixmkr
I tired two instances of it with Perfect Space...panning hard L/R and slightly altering the predelay, EQ, etc from each other and made for a pretty nice pseudo stereo effect.  This will go next to my Taj impulses!
2014/06/02 23:09:52
JohnKenn
Realize this impulse is far too long to be usefull in real life application. The gunshot was never meant to be a musical tool, just a scientific analysis of a newly found reverb length record.. Just so happens an incredible impulse file was created.
 
Turns everything into mud if the complete 35 second tail is used. Original was 75 seconds. Heard clips of various musicians in the tank and the effect was so overpowering, they let the reverb play them rather than using the ambience as a secondary effect.
 
Dynamite impulse file however. Gives the headroom to let software shorten the length for brief applications. Got some great effects truncating to under a quarter second. This besides being a premium impulse with imbedded subtle echo overtones in the background.
 
John
2014/06/02 23:46:20
mixmkr
JohnKenn
Realize this impulse is far too long to be usefull in real life application.


Well isn't that a bummer??   Sure it is... I wash my clothes in reverb.. cause it's nice and wet...  For ambient sound scapes, this could be useful.  ....think... ONE pan flute (Zamphir)..... note....   fading into total ambient bliss....  lol!
2014/06/03 10:03:31
Jim Roseberry
If you gate it, you could "re-popularize" that 80's drum sound (a-la Phil Collins)   
2014/06/03 22:53:06
JohnKenn
Thanks Jim for the gate possibility, and to mixmkr for a gentle reminder that branding a file useless doesn't mean it's useless for everyone... Got to get back to the Zen of things, my bad...
 
This link is to a permutation of the oil can file. Still only at 35 sec, about half of the original. Much longer rendering brings in destructive mic artifacts. May or may not be useful, but a good education out here... Learned a few things.
 
Used two blasphemous programs that everyone loves to hate. Warped the decay slope with the "R" word to get a consistent level. Then used (gasp!!) Cake's Boost to level out inconsistencies fed through from Reaper... oh crap,  meant from the "R" word... Hope the censor police don't delete this.
 
Couple points I learned to forward my microcosmic understanding. First, was trying to cut off the initial steep slope so I could get a more gradual decay to normalize the file. No matter where I cut the beginning off, the same math asymptote rule applied. Beauty in nature that only digital tech could kick back in my face.
 
Then the frequency decay. The file is normalized quite well, but the hi's die off leaving deeper frequencies skewed in the mix. Means this file is progressively darker and can overload the track. Clipping will be a problem in not rolled back as the low tones take over..
 
Here it is, best I can do. May ultimately be best not to fork with mother nature 'cause don't know if this was an improvement or not.. Check it out anyway...
 
http://en.swoopshare.com/file/4818e2e300abe30dc6f2ab37d0e1bf5e/Scotland2.wav.html
 
John
 
 
 
 
 
 
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