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2014/06/05 08:56:47
Dave Modisette
Sidroe
I don't know for sure because my ears are tired from tracking today but it seems as if there is more headroom in 2.4. Someone else, clue us in.


I don't think there is any thing in the update to support that.
2014/06/05 08:58:02
Dave Modisette
Glyn Barnes
Sidroe
Well, I bit the bullet and did the upgrades on the EZD kits. All seems well, right now. Some of the midi libraries have gotten a lot bigger. More choices and it seems to be more useable patterns have been added. Sounding good!


Intresting.
 
But if you upgrade an EZX, does it still work in EZDrummer 1?


I wouldn't risk it until you confirm it with Toontrack staff.
2014/06/05 09:56:47
bitflipper
I didn't get that email. Maybe they know I'm running XP...
 
I would presume not. Windows XP has been officially discontinued, as it is 13 years old now. Hence new software doesn't support it anymore.

I am a software developer, and my products install and run on XP just fine. Vista, too. That's because I make a point of maintaining compatibility across many Windows versions.
 
Because my applications interact with Microsoft Office, I also have to maintain compatibility with multiple versions of Office, and let me tell you that's a royal PIA! But I do it because the alternative is telling a customer I can no longer take his money.
 
Seriously, losing XP-compatibility usually has one of two causes: the developer is too lazy and/or too cheap to keep an XP machine around for testing, or they are coerced by Microsoft in order to keep their Windows logo certification. 
 
In the business world, XP still has a huge user base, many times bigger than Windows 8. Advice to periodically replace the O/S with a newer version usually comes from users who have no non-trivial applications they depend on. If they did, they'd know that upgrading the O/S can be vastly more complicated than just sticking in a DVD.
2014/06/05 10:28:33
Bajan Blue
If they did, they'd know that upgrading the O/S can be vastly more complicated than just sticking in a DVD.
 
Bit
you can say that again! I upgraded one of my old machines from XP to 7 when the system Hard disc went faulty - it seemed only a bit of a pain - so I thought I'd upgrade my other 2 XP Machines - EPIC MISTAKE!!
As I purchased new installs (not upgrades apparently so I purchased the wrong thing anyway!) I had no idea how difficult it would be when you have lots of programs as opposed to a fresh install.
In fact such a nightmare, I gave up and rolled back to XP, which I had thankfully freshly backed up.
Only good thing was I didn't pay too much for the Windows 7  software, but now for me, both copies redundant!
Nigel
 
 
 
2014/06/05 16:45:56
Sidroe
They had to pry my XP computer from my wrinkled old hands! I loved it so! I never had Vista because everyone said it was a dog. I made the jump to Windows 7 with a new rig. I have to say after learning my way around that it felt very much like XP. I now have a laptop with Windows 8.1 setup to boot to the classic desktop. I'm not quite sure what my impressions are of it yet. I do miss XP!
2014/06/05 17:05:17
Eddie TX
Microsoft seems to roll out a successful OS every other time ... 95 good, 98 bad, 2000 good, ME bad, XP good, Vista bad, 7 good, 8 bad.  I made the mistake of installing Win 8 on my wife's PC, and now even simple operations like finding a file or exiting a program have become exercises in frustration.  I gave up after a little bit of that nonsense.  The wife doesn't mind so much ... mostly she just websurfs, though.
 
Back on topic, if anyone can confirm whether there are any improvements to SD 2.4 other than EZX compatibility, please chime in.
 
Cheers,
Eddie
 
2014/06/05 17:25:19
rtucker55
I still have not found anything else about it.
 
It does state on the ToonTrack website that SD2 is supported in XP but it does not state whether the 2.4.0 update changes that. It's the EZD2 that requires (stated in system specs) win 7 or higher.
 
If you're running XP I would want to hear directly from ToonTrack whether the SD2 2.4.0 update will work or provide any value.
2014/06/05 17:36:20
SvenArne
Eddie TX
Microsoft seems to roll out a successful OS every other time ... 95 good, 98 bad, 2000 good, ME bad, XP good, Vista bad, 7 good, 8 bad. 
 


I consider all of them bad up until XP. I remember trying to do hardware upgrades on my first Win95 machine..!
2014/06/05 19:55:37
Sycraft
bitflipper
I didn't get that email. Maybe they know I'm running XP...
 
In the business world, XP still has a huge user base, many times bigger than Windows 8. Advice to periodically replace the O/S with a newer version usually comes from users who have no non-trivial applications they depend on. If they did, they'd know that upgrading the O/S can be vastly more complicated than just sticking in a DVD.




The thing is, it is out of support. No security patches. That is reason enough not to run it. I do IT support professionally and we are leaning on people hard to get off XP. There are other reasons to use a newer OS, they've made many other improvements, but that it is EOL is reason enough. It is going to become an increasing security liability, and increasing support headache (it is already a good bit more difficult to support than newer OSes).
 
MS has a pretty reasonable lifecycle: 10 years from the date of release, minimum. That's on par with RHEL and stuff like that. So like I said, you need to be ready to upgrade at least once a decade, which is not unreasonable. You probably need a new computer at least once a decade as PSUs/HDDs are seriously pushing it at that age.
 
XP is 13 years old, they extended support 3 years, so it really isn't unreasonable to make the switch to something newer. I can fully understand devs that aren't going to support XP when Microsoft themselves has discontinued XP support.
2014/06/05 22:14:16
mixmkr
I upgraded to 2.4 and all my EZD2 midi files are no longer accessible in both EZD or SUperior...PLUS the two new EZD2 kits vanished in EZD and of course you can't see them in Superior now either...which was I believe why the update...so you could.
 
welpers... I guess we'll sort this one out.
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