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2014/05/15 22:15:04
rtucker55
Just curious if anyone has found an Iso type, or any effects type, cymbals in the current drum samplers. I have not done a thorough search of my stuff yet but thought I would pose the question in case someone could save me a little/bunch of time.
 
Kind regards,
Rick
2014/05/16 09:51:57
bitflipper
Educate me, Rick; what's an "Iso cymbal"?
2014/05/16 10:36:27
rtucker55
Hi Bit,
 
Perhaps that is branding term from Sabian but below is a link to Real One:
 
http://www.sabian.com/en/cymbal/216xisoc-cymbal
 
I have listened to several examples on YouTube of this ISO? type cymbal and I really enjoy the lighter sound, less sustain, and the slight sizzle they give.
 
The Sabians' use 1/2" holes to help isolate the bell but I have seen other makes that use larger holes and or many holes that achieve basically the same thing.
 
Just thought I would ask before I try to re-invent the wheel using my existing cymbal samples.
 
Thanks,
Rick
2014/05/16 11:24:28
bitflipper
Ah, I see. I haven't been keeping up with drum technology!
 
Drumwerks has a boatload of Sabian cymbal samples, but nothing that says "Iso". 
2014/05/16 12:56:18
dcumpian
bitflipper
Ah, I see. I haven't been keeping up with drum technology!
 
Drumwerks has a boatload of Sabian cymbal samples, but nothing that says "Iso". 




Drumwerks does have really great samples, but they are samples, not kits. I bought a bunch of Drumwerks "kits" and really need to spend some quality time with Battery so I can build some useable kits. Bit, if you've got any tips, I'd love to hear 'em, lol.
 
Regards,
Dan
 
2014/05/16 13:53:15
bitflipper
I've bought just single instruments (kicks and snares) from Drumwerks, so creating a Kontakt nki from them is pretty easy with only 20-30 samples to map. It's still a laborious process, but it's all about getting quality drums on the cheap.
 
Usually, I'm merely replacing the kick and/or snare on a drum track that's otherwise handled by Superior Drummer's stock kit. Sometimes I just want a deeper or boomier kick, a tighter or looser snare. 
 
BTW, Rick, check out the "Zildjian Mega Bell Power Metal 21-inch Ride" from Drumwerks. Don't know how close this is to the "Iso" effect you're looking for, but the bell samples sound pretty good.
2014/05/16 15:08:33
rtucker55
Thanks Bit,
 
I didn't find what I am actually after but at least I have Drumwerks bookmarked. I'll probably try to contact them and see if something like what I'm after might be coming in the future. They do have a few Sabian AAX's so I guess it is possible. Prices seem right too!
2014/05/16 17:41:41
twaddle
I have a Sabian AAX Crash that came with BFD2 but only the one and just checking and I don't think it's an ISO cymbal,
at least it doesn't have holes punched thought it but then neither does this one Sabian 16" AAX Iso Crash  so perhaps it is one after all
 
Put in a request to Rail at PS perhaps ?
 
Steve
2014/05/16 18:14:08
rtucker55
Hi Steve,
 
I need to audition my BFD,2,3 cymbals yet including the zildjian digital vault. I do notice there are some sabians in the jazz funk kit but not listed as AAX. Sabian is not the only mfg. to offer these effects type cymbals so I will check around.
 
Look at that link above again and you can see the 6 holes equally spaced around the bell. It is kinda hard to see at first.
 
When you say Rail at PS is that the Platinum Samples Rail your speaking of?
 
Appreciate your reply.
 
Rick
2014/05/16 18:53:45
twaddle
Oops, how did I miss those great big holes?
 
I'm a little surprised that there are so few sabian cymbals let alone the AAX range.
I'm not a drummer but I'm pretty sure sabian are one of the top brands and well respected.
The  Sabian AAX range  seems pretty big too.
 
Yes, I was referring to Rail from Platinum Samples, perhaps he can give an explanation as to why there are so few sabian cymbals unless they do a set?
 
Steve
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