2015/06/04 07:38:34
synkrotron
clintmartin
I think you can configure Sound forge as a utility and launch it from within Sonar.



You can indeed Clint, but I always opt for shutting down Sonar and then opening my wave file directly in SF10.
 
thanks 
2015/06/04 08:13:34
bitflipper
When I migrated to a 64-bit O/S, I was faced with the unpleasant prospect of losing Adobe Audition. I looked at Sound Forge as a potential replacement, since I was already using the CD authoring component of the suite. But Sound Forge just didn't suit me as well as Audition, and it was going to cost $250 (at the time; it's less now, about $150).
 
Fortunately, when Adobe retired Audition they did the right thing and provided a way for users to keep on using it. That involved supplying a version that did not require online registration. Unfortunately, I've lost that link and can't report whether if it's still available.
 
And yes, Audition can be configured as a wave editor within SONAR.
2015/06/04 09:06:48
clintmartin
http://www.techspot.com/downloads/5733-adobe-audition.html
Follow instructions...or delete my post if it's wrong in some way.
Do any of you have a link on how to setup Audition as a utility?
2015/06/04 09:51:46
TremoJem
How do you (think I saw this in the menu somewhere actually) split a clip?
 
Why?
 
And what does it do or allow you to do, once you have split a clip?
 
TNX
2015/06/04 13:27:01
Danny Danzi
synkrotron
Thanks again Danny, I really appreciate this.
 
Regarding samples... The only VSTi I am using that uses samples it Battery 3, so yeah, I will look out for that when I am using that. Absynth also uses some samples, but I find I'm not using that so much.
 
All my other instruments, Hive (which I have just bought), all my A|A|S stuff, FabFilter Twin and its little brother, a couple of my Korg synths and what have you, are all modelling synths. But I think they can actually cause their own problems.
 
By the way, I posted this picture of a Pro-L instance on my master bus in that project:-
 

 
What are your thoughts on that? Even though I'm using a limiter, I'm not squashing the wave totally. It's more of an insurance policy really, and much quicker than trying to suss out which track is causing the problem and sticking a volume envelope on it.
 
Thanks again Danny... I am reading every word and it's great that you're helping 




Not a problem, Andy. My thoughts on your picture....it's hard to say. It looks good, but looks can be deceiving unless the song in question can be heard. I'm not much of a meter man that looks at charts, graphs or what something looks like UNLESS there is a problem that my ears can't sort out or I have to point out something specific to someone.
 
I think you're on the right track with everything though. Also, what bit said in his second to last post is where you want to be. Those of us that DO mix into a compressor do so for the coloration aspect it *can* add depending on the compressor. There is no right or wrong really...especially if your ears are liking what you hear. Some guys run limiters all over the place and use them sparingly with good results...others hammer limiters for loud, aggressive music....and they still fair well for the genre specific stuff as bit mentioned, and then there are those that just over-do everything. I think that's what everyone here is trying to tell you in their own words. 
 
Use whatever tools you need, but try to sort out the issues using tools and procedures that leave you with the least amount of artifacts.
 
(Bit, I use a 64 bit OS and have no problems running AA3 on my machines. /did you get some sort of error message or something?)
 
-Danny
2015/06/04 13:37:02
synkrotron
Danny Danzi
Use whatever tools you need, but try to sort out the issues using tools and procedures that leave you with the least amount of artifacts.

 
Got that Danny 
 
You've been a great help, all of you.
 
For the future, I need to play with the limiter more... See what it can do, in both a good way and a bad. Push it, and see (or hear) what comes out...
 
As you rightly say, there is no right or wrong, in our art, or art in general 
 
cheers
2015/06/04 15:15:41
bitflipper
Danny Danzi
Bit, I use a 64 bit OS and have no problems running AA3 on my machines. /did you get some sort of error message or something?

No, AA3 runs just fine under 64-bit Windows 8.1. My problem was simply that I needed to re-authorize it after installation on the new computer, but there was no mechanism for doing that since Adobe had shut down their authorization server. Fortunately, I'd found the link Clint's talking about and was able to get the version that doesn't require online authorization. Been happily Auditioning ever since.
 
2015/06/04 21:59:07
mettelus
I actually have CS2.3, but am downloading from Clint's link now. I use AA4 (from CS5.5) which was re-written from scratch (MIDI was not yet redone when AA4 came out) and runs incredibly well for wav editing. I am curious to see if these can be installed side-by-side like SONAR can and just what MIDI features "used" to be there. I honestly never used AA4 until I saw it mentioned in these forums years ago (definitely worth adding to the utilities menu).
 
I did notice that the CS2 is only CS2. When released, it also came with Macromedia's programs which were since acquired and integrated (Dreamweaver, Flash, etc.). I do not see these as part of this free download, but they also have advanced significantly since (so probably moot to have anyway).
 
I am trying to surgically install AA3 ATM, and still on the loops download. AA4 does not have these since MIDI was dropped, so this will be an interesting experience.
2015/06/05 07:07:06
clintmartin
I didn't install the loops, but I did find a patch for Adobe Audition 3.0.1.
2015/06/05 08:11:08
synkrotron
I've managed to install AA3...
 
Multi-tracking huh... Interesting........
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