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  • What do you do with extraneous noises between phrases of a take? (p.2)
2015/07/01 10:39:35
charlyg
Blue Cat bundle downloaded, installed, scanned, and opened.
 
The reason this came up is I caught John noodling quietly while waiting for his part of the intro! also coughing just before the next verse!
 
Cool beans!
2015/07/01 10:43:48
charlyg
Ps - I have committed myself to a minimum of 2  X2 SWA vids a day, max of 5. 
2015/07/01 10:58:17
Beepster
charlyg
Ps - I have committed myself to a minimum of 2  X2 SWA vids a day, max of 5. 




Excellent. You'll be flying in no time. Once you plow through them all they make a great reference. If I know I need to do something wacky on a specific day I'll pop open the appropriate vid for the task to review it. Then I'm not bumblefarting around or scouring the reference guide as I work. It has made my life much easier.
 
Cheers and good jerb. ;-)
2015/07/01 11:05:03
synkrotron
charlyg
Blue Cat bundle downloaded, installed, scanned, and opened.



Nice one... I'll have a look at that myself.
 
BTW, if I offer you advice in the future, always wait for a grown up to turn up first LOL
2015/07/01 11:21:33
charlyg
HA! goes twice for me!
2015/07/01 12:10:16
batsbrew
i hard core chop out silent areas,
on every track.
 
and do the same for micro edits,
if i don't like a breath sound going into a vocal take,
i'll chop it right to the point where the note starts happening.
 
this is a touchy-feely thing, because sometimes noisy tails, or sliding string sounds, adds realism to the track,
and taking them out sounds artificial.
 
judgement call.
 
 
but i will destructively edit with EXTREME PREJUDICE,
AND
i just don't care.
 
:)
2015/07/01 12:25:32
Karyn
How is chopping up a clip any more destructive than adding automated clip gain or a gate?
 
The multiple clips you end up with when you chop one up are all just links to the same original audio file (take) on disk.  If you want back what you "deleted" just grab the edge of the clip and drag it out.
 
Also, it doesn't save any disk space by deleting silence in this manner because the underlying audio file remains unchanged.  You'd have to separately bounce each clip to a new file and then delete the original audio file.
2015/07/01 12:40:38
Beepster
Karyn
How is chopping up a clip any more destructive than adding automated clip gain or a gate?
 
The multiple clips you end up with when you chop one up are all just links to the same original audio file (take) on disk.  If you want back what you "deleted" just grab the edge of the clip and drag it out.
 
Also, it doesn't save any disk space by deleting silence in this manner because the underlying audio file remains unchanged.  You'd have to separately bounce each clip to a new file and then delete the original audio file.




He probably is bouncing (bats, that is). Now though I'm wondering whether flatten is destructive. I think it is because it does the little mixdown dance in the Transport module. (Edit: But the original files would remain anyway so it's moot... I usually archive tracks that have been flattened and drag the new comp into a new track when I'm done)
 
No biggie for me really. My drive aren't even all that epic and I've been cramming them with a zillion takes, bounces and imported files for a few years now and still have plenty of room without ever doing any cleanup.
 
I really do need to do a massive purge and defrag at some point.
 
2015/07/01 13:15:27
batsbrew
Karyn
How is chopping up a clip any more destructive than adding automated clip gain or a gate?
 
The multiple clips you end up with when you chop one up are all just links to the same original audio file (take) on disk.  If you want back what you "deleted" just grab the edge of the clip and drag it out.
 
Also, it doesn't save any disk space by deleting silence in this manner because the underlying audio file remains unchanged.  You'd have to separately bounce each clip to a new file and then delete the original audio file.


using the 'ALT' tab and dragging the cursor across multiple tracks at once to take out entire sections of 'blank' space is so much easier then automating all of those areas.
 
plus
 
depending on how much volume automation i'm going to do, 
sometimes putting in the envelope FIRST, then doing the deleting of unnecessary audio, creates new nodes for the volume automation on each section of audio that is left, which IF you plan on doing a lot of volume rides, makes it easier to set up.
then, you just grab the middle of that section of automation envelope, and either lift or drop, it's super quick and efficient.
 
for me.
 
after my 'deletions' are all done, i simply 'select all', and hit 'apply trimming'.
 
a lot of times, i can quickly go thru an entire mix, deleting (trimming) everywhere i need to, 
and then go zoom in and focus on trouble areas, whereas all i have to do then, is grab the edge of the audio, and pull it exactly where i need to for the edit.
 
 
then, i can put volume envelopes across the entire individual tracks, and do typical node points and rides.
 
it works either way.
 
i often use volume automation instead of compression, and i do a lot of edits.
to my ears, it sounds better.
 
2015/07/01 13:16:59
batsbrew
i'll try to catch a screen shot tonight, of a current project that has a buttload of edits like that,
and post it.
 
just FWIW
 
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