pentimentosound
 
@ kamikaze     There really is no compensation for the impact of war. Perhaps, now with the internet and so many amazing documentaries being made, people can begin to understand the scope of war's aftermath.
 
Michael
 
 

Nah, the people effected deserve compensation. It's their reality, the internet is not. It's a shame! 

Agreed. I meant that the more of us that are aware then the more likely things can change and the internet serves that larger awareness.

maximumpower

batsbrew
get one decent outboard compressor.
.........
would be a FMR RNC........
 
http://www.fmraudio.com/rnc.html

Thank you for pointing that out. I am just a part time hobbyist but always wanted an outboard compressor. I like the price. I have read up on it and they said it is not good for bass. I think they said it was too slow?

for the record, i do not own a RNC.
 
i have a DBX MC-6.
 
i have used a RNC, and will buy one whenever i can afford it.
 
but my point was, that for (1) compressor that would work for the 'majority' of needs,
the RNC fits the bill nicely...
 
but, every compressor has it's own 'character', and for BASS tracks,
there are better choices.
 
albeit more expensive choices.
 
 
i think the 1176 is one of the most popular comps for bass tracks,
and there are numerous 'clones' of this classic you can find, that are more affordable than a real 1176.
 
https://www.soundonsound....classiccompressors.htm

And we're back to why I think that little ART Tube/Compressor unit might help me out. Probably not the greatest compressor/preamp out there but if it smooths the signal a bit and can add a bit of tube color/boost if I want/need then I can take it from there in the box. I don't want to TOTALLY squish things on the way in but it would certainly be nice to see some reasonably even wave forms on my screen and be able to control HOW even they are a little bit. Some analog warmth seems like a good thing too.
 
I do great with the stuff in the box I think but I know I could do so much more with even just a SLIGHTLY better signal. Ever so SLIGHTLY better. I can worry about the intricacies/become more refined in my tastes of outboard gear as I learn.
 
Nothing worse than dropping hundreds or even thousands of dollars on something that just ain't the right piece of kit. I learned that in my live days. I've owned some brilliant vintage gear that was pretty and sounded great but for what I was doing all I really needed was guit with a fast fretboard, decent PUPs and high powered amp to throw shiz.
 
In this scenario I think I just need a bit more even-ess and texture (that I can control/dial in) and then go nutballs with the mountains of plugins I've got installed ont he computer.
 
Yanno?
 
That's all kind of of topic... sort of... maybe... whatevs... meh.
 
Great convo though.
 
;-)

Excellent reference article on the various types/models, Bat!
Michael

Don't know about the MP one. Do you mean this version? ($58)
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=257221&gclid=CjwKEAjwq-OsBRDd95aryprR9wQSJACQnU3GsVmcBbReg8_580Qh9OLjgvtlHMu8yCq6lgyhtfPczBoCuUzw_wcB&is=REG&m=Y&A=details&Q=
 but the original Pro VLA gets great reviews. There's one on eBAY for $99+$35s/h
http://www.tapeop.com/reviews/gear/74/pro-vla-ii/
 
What price point are you talking about? I got my WA76 for $400 used.
 
 
 
 

I've been looking at the ART Tube MP/C. It's essentially the same thing as the lower priced MP series ones but has an onboard compressor and some better connections/routing (it supposedly can do Hi-Z input stuff and reamping which the other units seem to lack as well and I mostly do electric guitar). It runs about $120 CAD up here (and about $100 down in the US) so definitely paying a little more to get that compressor and the extra flexibility. batsbrew pointed me to the MP stuff and it was looking hopeful but lacked the little extra for line in guit (which the MP/C claims to handle). The compressor was kind of a bonus but then it got me thinking I do need a compressor anyway so what the heck.
 
Wish I could spend more because some very nice units were mentioned in that thread. Just can't spend much more than the MP/C is going for and even then $120 (plus tax) is really pushing it. I figure since I seem to be picking up some session work though it will be a worthwhile and even time saving investment. I can look at fancier stuff later on as finances get better (if they ever do... fingers crossed).
 
Cheers.

pentimentosound
Excellent reference article on the various types/models, Bat!
Michael

+1
 
I read that article yesterday.  That's what prompted me to look closer at the PC76 U-Type.

Be very careful using hardware compression on the way in.
 
You are stuck with this after the event.
 
Even if you are using light compression and have lowish gain reduction if the attack setting is too fast you will still screw the transient edge.  I have seen many a great drum sound destroyed by this.
 
If you use the K system (correctly) and record down at the right ref level the system will still cope with wide variations in level without clipping. Then you do have the options after the event.
 
Software compressors are smarter as they can look ahead.
 
 
 
 

Jeff Evans
Be very careful using hardware compression on the way in.
 
You are stuck with this after the event.

+1 I only use a bit of h/w compression (Markbass Compressore pedal) when live, never when recording (only a wet output; no dry; could split it with a DI, but don't have one except for the one built into my amp).