cclarry
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cclarry ,
 
I'm so happy I got up to speed and picked up Mixbus  I love it already ...
thanks for the heads up ...
 
Kenny
 
 
 
 

Yeah, I've got a lot of reading to do, but this will satisfy my console emulation interest...and then some. For less than a decent midi pack I have the Harrison Mix/bus. You can't beat that!

So Larry, Clint, et al, how are you using Mixbus. I really like the setup and the sound but after 7 or 8 years with Sonar and hundreds of projects I'm not really of a mind to change my workflow with a new DAW. Is there a good way to use them in concert? I'm thinking routing is the big question.

MakeShift

So, what would be the best way to use this with Sonar? I've seen several videos and it does sound really nice but can it be integrated with Sonar to take advantage of its sound and features without losing everything that Sonar has to offer? Mixing drums inside Mixbus and returning it to X3?

I'm sure it can't really be done but it would be cool if you could use it as a mixer by having the mic ins come into Mixbus and output to tracks in Sonar.

 
This has always been my thought as well.  It kind of defeats the functionality of using Sonar as a mixer, if you have to do it all over again in another DAW. 

I can certainly understand your point of view , it is totally valid ….why change it if it works for you 
 
in my situation , 
my workflow might be a little difficult for anybody else to adapt to …the thing is , it was born out of necessity..
 
I was behind the loop for a lot of years running SONAR 6 and when I upgraded to X3 i caught up a little bit
even having said that ,
I have always treated my personal music and song projects as if I was collaborating w different people on various DAWs ..
 
there are a lot of things I don't have access to in SONAR at this point (over here on my end …) 
for example , I don't have Kontak or any of the major sampler libraries ….i only have the Kontak demo 
when I want to create my own sounds or use a fully featured sampler that has advanced functions ,
I have to go over to Logic and use the ESX 24 …
(the same goes for all the plugs and various other sound tools that are outside SONAR )
 
from my point of view , I don't mind having to do all of that bouncing around DAWs and incorporating the different work flows and unique things that each of them bring to the table ….
Everything I've ever done always ends up back in SONAR anyways ,
it has always been my preference to export each edited track and synth rendered with plugs applied and then create a project of rendered  audio only in SONAR to further tweak to my hearts content ...
( by that point the parent project is no longer in the loop and if I need it I can always go back to it )
so the only thing that is different is , I'm using another tool to get another sound ...
 
any way I don't mean to ramble on in this thread , I do like Mixbus a lot already ...
even though I'm just poking around with it , I'm very happy to have this sonic tool in my tool box
i dig it , and I hope I can open and save a Mixbus project in Windows and then be able to open it up in OS 10 ... 
that would make my life super easier 
 
an obvious light bulb moment for me was that I realized that there is nothing stoping me from creating in SONAR the type of advanced routing for effects and sends that Mixbus has and simplifies  in it's core basic set up ...
then saving that as a mixing template ….
there is no doubt in my mind that many Power SONAR users have been doing that type of thing for years 
 
I'm learning something new for me ………...I'm still teachable 
 
Kenny

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cclarry
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cclarry ,
 
I'm so happy I got up to speed and picked up Mixbus  I love it already ...
thanks for the heads up ...
 
Kenny
 
 
 
 

Kenny, my pleasure.

I can't begin to say how much I love the sound.
When I bought it, my thought was...I have an upgrade
path when it goes 64 bit, even if I don't like it much.
Was VERY happy I did and QUITE surprised!

Granted, it's not the be all and end all of DAW's, but
it certainly SOUNDS different then ANYTHING I've used,
and I mean that in a good way.

Just a quick (more like curious) question.
 
MixBus sounds great because of certain 'color' that affect the audio.
 
Will this color gets to be exported to the wave file ? Or it only appears within MixBus ?
 
If the color gets to be exported to the wave file, will a second* or third* edit/export amplify this color further ?
 
*Edit : Re-import of the exported file, then export it again. A few times.

cclarry

kennywtelejazz

cclarry
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More converts 

 
cclarry ,
 
I'm so happy I got up to speed and picked up Mixbus  I love it already ...
thanks for the heads up ...
 
Kenny
 
 
 
 

Kenny, my pleasure.

I can't begin to say how much I love the sound.
When I bought it, my thought was...I have an upgrade
path when it goes 64 bit, even if I don't like it much.
Was VERY happy I did and QUITE surprised!

Granted, it's not the be all and end all of DAW's, but
it certainly SOUNDS different then ANYTHING I've used,
and I mean that in a good way.

 cclarry , you did a good thing by hipping me to this  your older thread on Mixbus sealed the deal 
 

tomixornot
Just a quick (more like curious) question.
 
MixBus sounds great because of certain 'color' that affect the audio.
 
Will this color gets to be exported to the wave file ? Or it only appears within MixBus ?
 
If the color gets to be exported to the wave file, will a second* or third* edit/export amplify this color further ?
 
*Edit : Re-import of the exported file, then export it again. A few times.

Yes when you export , your export will sound exactly as what you heard and wanted to export in the first place
I haven't tried the Re importing of the export in Mixbus , so I can't answer you on that decisively ...
my guess would be that yes your new track / file can be colored some more if you wanted it to be 
 
I have done that in SONAR very often to be honest with you 
 
Kenny

Plugins with multiple inputs and outputs can now be handled in Mixbus with the very latest version 2.5.
 
A good thing to do is to create a special folder and only put a copy of the plugins in there you want to open in Mixbus. Then point Mixbus to that folder for its VST scan. It will only look in there, use those plugs and it will do it way faster as well.
 
I have found a great way to use Mixbus in conjunction with another DAW is to do most of the mixing in your regular DAW but export a series of stems that say will be set at unity and when summed will create the mix you have created in your DAW. Avoid the temptation to put too much on the buses in terms of EQ and compression before export, rather leave that final seasoning to Mixbus instead.
 
Use Mixbus to bring the stems together. There are three EQ's. One for channels, buses and the final stereo buss. The cool thing is the EQ's are all slightly different. Especially the one on the stereo buss with its Low Mid knob.
 
You can use the dynamics on the channels and buses as well or I tend to use those a little less but use my fave dynamics plugins instead. Tape sim can be dialed in to taste on the buses. Summing the stems this way will also impart the Harrison sound over everything anyway.
 
I also use Harrison Mixbus for mastering too with just stereo files on one track. The multiband comp and mastering EQ are also excellent. I use PSP Xenon as my final mastering limiter though.
 
I think Jack only works on a Mac system for diverting audio signals in real time from your Mac based DAW to Mixbus and back.
 
 

Thanks for the post Jeff. I'm thinking of treating it as a mixer during tracking by routing my mic inputs first to Mixbus and then sending that out of one set of OUTS and then patch that back to a set of INS and into Sonar. Just make sure the gain staging is correct going into Mixbus and then it becomes a mixer. 
 
At least that's how I see it in my head. That should work, right? Or did I miss something? Too bad PCs can't do Jack. :)  I can't get to try this out until later. Not even sure if this is an advantage but I really like the sound of Mixbus! (ccLarry, you are killing my studio budget $20 at a time! This one is the best heads up, methinks) The channel comps on drums sound really good and the EQ is very sweet. 

I am considering this, since most of my plugins cost way more! LOL     So, I suppose learning to use it for the benefit of it's sound is worth way more than the price! Thanks to all who have posted their experiences and feedback.
Michael