2014/05/05 20:23:32
clintmartin
It sounds really nice. Go ahead and buy it if you have an extra $20...you won't regret it. If money is tight...I would buy tacos. I love a good taco.
2014/05/05 20:27:07
Rain
At this point, I have no interest in using any DAW but Logic. I've uninstalled Pro Tools and Cubase and sold Studio One. 
 
MixBus is the one possible exception to that rule, because it isn't just another DAW.
 
On the other hand, I guess that if I owned something like Slate's Virtual Console Collection, or Waves' NLS, coupled w/ a tape emulation such as Kramer Tape or Slate's, MB might have less appeal. 
2014/05/05 21:14:35
Eddie TX
Rain
On the other hand, I guess that if I owned something like Slate's Virtual Console Collection, or Waves' NLS, coupled w/ a tape emulation such as Kramer Tape or Slate's, MB might have less appeal. 

 
I have those other plugins, and while they're fine, MixBus goes far beyond what I've ever been able to achieve with them.  The way the whole mix seems to gel together and present itself as one piece of music, rather than a collection of tracks, is quite remarkable.  It's definitely not a subtle, transparent effect, which may not suit all tastes or genres -- I don't think I'd reach for MB for a modern dance-pop or metal record -- but if the soft-focus, organic sound appeals to you, it's a great addition to the toolbox.
 
Cheers,
Eddie
 
2014/05/06 10:29:46
ltb
I've been mixing stems with it for over a year now but still can't find a better way to save over user presets & project/ template files without deleting the others first.
There's isn't a replace option I can find. Anyone know if there is?

BTW for anyone using x64 plugins exclusively use j-bridge & convert all your x64 'mixing' plugins over to 32b into a dedicated 'Mixbuss' folder. No need to install both.
It's also the only way I could get Nebula to work.
2014/05/06 16:37:07
Crowned One
I finally got round to picking this up and installing it!!
 
Few quick questions for the long time users.
 
Do you just import your bus stems or individual tracks for a whole session?
Does it make a difference to the sound with more tracks?
Are you re-importing back into Sonar to master after you have the "Harrison sound" or finishing there?
 
Thanks
Stephen
2014/05/06 16:50:13
SteveStrummerUK
southpaw3473

Hi Steve,
Try and start Mixbus first and Sonar second. I haven't had any issues at all with drivers. They just open up in both. Does Toneport have more than one IN pair and one OUT pair? For this to work you have to have a route out and in as well as main outs. I'm using patchbays to physically patch the I/Os. 
 
I also set it up so I can go directly from Sonar to Mixbus using basically the same setup. 
 
I inserted stereo tracks in Mixbus and set their inputs. Set my drum bus OUTS in Sonar to an OUT and patched that to the in selected in Mixbus. It worked perfectly. This is very handy. I can even patch out of Sonar into Mixbus and back into Sonar. This is crazy and changes my whole setup.
 
There are limitations for sure but I like the early returns. 



Thanks for your reply Tommy.
 
As far as I can tell, my TonePort has two INs but only one OUT.
 
Ed (Bapu) suggested I use an additional soundcard to make it possible to route the audio from one application to the other. I'll give it a go using my Cakewalk VS-20 when I get the chance.
 
Cheers again
2014/05/06 17:33:33
Jeff Evans
Eddie TX
 
 I have those other plugins, and while they're fine, MixBus goes far beyond what I've ever been able to achieve with them.  The way the whole mix seems to gel together and present itself as one piece of music, rather than a collection of tracks, is quite remarkable.  It's definitely not a subtle, transparent effect, which may not suit all tastes or genres -- I don't think I'd reach for MB for a modern dance-pop or metal record -- but if the soft-focus, organic sound appeals to you, it's a great addition to the toolbox.
 
Cheers,
Eddie
 




I have been using it a for a while now both to mix stems and master tracks with.  I don't fully agree with what Eddie is saying here.  He is implying what he says it is doing is permanent whereas I say you can control it to varying degrees to do what he is saying.  The very subtle side of it needs to be explored and heard.
 
Yes it can be very obvious and add a large dose of mixing console mojo for sure but it does not always have to either.  By being subtle with the use of the channel EQ's and dynamics you can control this to a certain extent.  Using the tape sims or not on buses and the main stereo buss is also important.
 
If you don't apply EQ or dynamics anywhere, use no tape sims and remove the limiters on the output use no tape sim and EQ on the output the mix/stems will pass through almost untouched except for very small amount of console emulation going on perhaps.  You will have clear focus, it will be less organic, more pristine.  I have done a few sessions with no limiters or tape sims being used and very small amounts of EQ. I like it in this mode.
 
As you start using these built in features, and you should in small doses at first, the sound of it becomes more apparent.  I have also had success with really working the dynamics, EQ and tape sims all at once and it puts out a different sound in that mode too.
 
As I mentioned in a previous post though it is not for some genres.  It handles pop fine but it did not like an aggressive hip hop track I created with an artist last year for some reason.  Even in its least effecting mode it still sounded better being mixed and mastered from Studio One directly.  I think S1 had the clearer/harder more robust sound that just suited this particular track a bit more.  Harrison can do quite a broad range of genres though and well.  I have mastered quite a few so I have heard it in action over quite a few different things.  Mostly it sounds great. (Other Hip Hop I have mastered in Harrison sounded excellent BTW. It depends on the hip hop itself)
 
You X3 guys have got some great built in artillery to perhaps create very similar sounding things especially after really understanding and learning to use those tools to their full extent. Studio One prefers to leave these things out and instead allow the user to design these things in themselves, I find Harrison is a great extra program to have around as a partner to a DAW that does not feature console emulation and analog sounding processing.  Klanghelm's SDDR is also very cool and when used the right way on buses etc can also do a fine job.  That takes a bit of experimenting.
2014/05/06 17:42:17
Eddie TX
Crowned One
I finally got round to picking this up and installing it!!
 
Few quick questions for the long time users.
 
Do you just import your bus stems or individual tracks for a whole session?
Does it make a difference to the sound with more tracks?
Are you re-importing back into Sonar to master after you have the "Harrison sound" or finishing there?
 
Thanks
Stephen


 
Based on my experience with mixing one song so far, I found that it paid to import individual drum tracks separately, but grouped stems for things like guitars and vox worked fine.  Also I imported an FX stem from the original mix, having routed all FX buses to a single bus.  Within MixBus, I blended that track into the mix but also added a new FX bus with a room reverb plugin to get things to gel together even more.  Results were very good to my ears. 
 
It's certainly possible to finish the "mastered" track within MixBus, if your preferred mastering plugs are available in 32-bit form.  Unfortunately, I've been having problems with certain plugins such as IK's Mastering EQ.  The IK plugs seem to be unstable within MB (on my system -- YMMV), but others from Waves, UAD, Slate, ToneBoosters, etc. work great.  Have fun!
 
Cheers,
Eddie
2014/05/06 17:53:23
Eddie TX
Jeff Evans
Eddie TX
 
 I have those other plugins, and while they're fine, MixBus goes far beyond what I've ever been able to achieve with them.  The way the whole mix seems to gel together and present itself as one piece of music, rather than a collection of tracks, is quite remarkable.  It's definitely not a subtle, transparent effect, which may not suit all tastes or genres -- I don't think I'd reach for MB for a modern dance-pop or metal record -- but if the soft-focus, organic sound appeals to you, it's a great addition to the toolbox.
 
Cheers,
Eddie



I have been using it a for a while now both to mix stems and master tracks with.  I don't fully agree with what Eddie is saying here.  He is implying what he says it is doing is permanent whereas I say you can control it to varying degrees to do what he is saying.  The very subtle side of it needs to be explored and heard.

 
Hi Jeff!  Yes, I didn't mean to imply that the "MixBus Effect" couldn't be controlled and dialed in to taste.  Certainly you can rein in the effect, but based on my very limited experience, there will still be a change to the sound just by running a mix thru MixBus.  Whether that change is appealing is another matter, of course.  :-)
 
Cheers,
Eddie
 
2014/05/06 21:14:47
SteveStrummerUK
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