I have and will continue to arrange in EZdrummer and if I need more power in my drum sampler, I will go to Superior 2.  It's a pretty simple task in all the hosts that I use.
 
But if I can get away with it on a vanity project for a local guy who fancies himself a song writer and needs me to produce a track for him to sing over, I'll use EZdrummer in a heartbeat.  I haven't had a single artist stop me and say, "Hey, you're using 16 bit samples.  What's up with that?"  
 
Now if I ever get to the point where what I'm doing is competing for space in CD bins across the USA, well yeah, I better pick up my game.

That there's a cup of kool-aid you really don't need to drink Mod, ol pal.

Dang... where'd I put dat dang Squires Bullet Statoblaster??  Needs ta writ me a luv songs I cans sang ta myselves :-D
Darn Fender, 4 bit gitter..
 
Wadda ya gots agins Walmarts bins??   hum der Yoro?

mixmkr
With Superior .... just a quick list ....in no order...but you get attack/decay adjustments on the drums...(and the tuning which EZD2 now has) and a bunch of built in FX in the mixer section...nothing special but nice.  I think the biggest thing is the sound of the drums are better, imo and *if* you like "room sound"... you get piles of that, that you can add zero ...to as much as you want.  IOW, if you want to do the Led Zep monster kit in the hallway, you can approximate, where in EZD, I'm not sure you could replicate.  I think the MIDI grooves are a little more "tasty" overall.  That's hard to explain, but maybe like a better drummer, but playing still contained... HH stuff and side stick seems a little more "adult" for a lack of words.  Plus some extra mics, here and there, that you can blend to taste and the mixer...although waaaaay too many channels for the average use... now has busses and such that let you work inside the program, should you not want to do that in Sonar.  Nice presets too from Toontrack, from the full kits, to individual drum, HH sounds, etc
 
However..IMO...if you like the sound of drums recorded in a nice big, wooden wall'd, famous studio... you'll love the NY vol 1,2 and now 3...which to me are a couple notches above the kits EZD has.  Forget the reverb plugs...you won't need them unless you're doing something really wild.

Well I can see where having both would be best. (Thanks for the info) I will upgrade to EZD2, but I will be surprised if the added features and work flow are not added to SD3 at some point in the near future. It just doesn't make sense to allow yourself to get to far behind, when people will gladly pay for you to keep up.

"It's like Toon read my mind for features to EZD. Sold. In. Must I wait for May???"
+$99 here too!
I'm in the middle of a couple months down time, I could use it right NOW!
 
T
 

clintmartin
 
Well I can see where having both would be best. (Thanks for the info) I will upgrade to EZD2, but I will be surprised if the added features and work flow are not added to SD3 at some point in the near future. It just doesn't make sense to allow yourself to get to far behind, when people will gladly pay for you to keep up.

I have to say...this is on par (almost) with SepticTank..and everyone is oo-ing and ah-ing...AGAIN.

8 years for a version update is ludicrous...

It's a great product, I've had it since the beginning, and at least it was somewhat updated...1.33 currently...
that's not a FAR leap in 8 years, it didn't even make it to 1.5,  but at least they went 64 bit a while ago...and they didn't skimp on the on add packs...but, then again, so was ST...at least Toontrack didn't make empty promises...

But I guess that's what GAS does...people don't seem to care about how companies treat them...
or what the company does...all they seem to care about is GAS and what they can spend their next
dollar on...sorry to be the cynic here...but someone has to see the forest for the trees...

Such is life!

cclarry

clintmartin
 
Well I can see where having both would be best. (Thanks for the info) I will upgrade to EZD2, but I will be surprised if the added features and work flow are not added to SD3 at some point in the near future. It just doesn't make sense to allow yourself to get to far behind, when people will gladly pay for you to keep up.

I have to say...this is on par (almost) with SepticTank..and everyone is oo-ing and ah-ing...AGAIN.

8 years for a version update is ludicrous...

It's a great product, I've had it since the beginning, and at least it was somewhat updated...1.33 currently...
that's not a FAR leap in 8 years, it didn't even make it to 1.5,  but at least they went 64 bit a while ago...and they didn't skimp on the on add packs...but, then again, so was ST...at least Toontrack didn't make empty promises...

But I guess that's what GAS does...people don't seem to care about how companies treat them...
or what the company does...all they seem to care about is GAS and what they can spend their next
dollar on...sorry to be the cynic here...but someone has to see the forest for the trees...

Such is life!

I can see your point large as day and it's cynicism of the most healthy kind.
 
I watched the video and clearly it's a major improvement on it's predecessor but when you can pick up BFD Eco for $19 dollars in recent sales then $99 seems an enormous amount in reality.

EZdrummer2 seems like a step towards Eco and AD but still it's still some way behind for me but I guess if people want simplicity they'll be happy with EZdrummer2. If EZdrummer owners haven't already picked up BFD Eco in one of the sales then they really should as they'll be ooh-ing and ah-ing for a lot less wonga

Simplicity for me means feature limitations and lack of control and once you get used to either Addictive Drums or BFD Eco (and most of the bigger drum VSTi's) they are both extremely quick and easy to use and of course users don't have to use all the extra control features if they don't wish to as the presets and kits sound great as they are.
 
As for the effects that come with EZdrummer 2  I have to ask, why did they bother ?
They look like freebies they found on the net although that's a disservice to freebies as most of them are much better like Boot-EQ or Depthcharge Compressor
 
 
Steve
 
Steve

Cclarry, take the Hateraide from your lips and pour it down the sink, Bro.  
 
Eight years and they released Superior 2, EZkeys and 4 libraries, EZmix and two dozen preset packs, 28 (or so) drum libraries, EZplayer, Beatstation, Drumtracker (OK, that one didn't seem to pan out so well) and a bunch of midi libraries as well - not to mention being the first 64 bit drum samplers to hit the market.

Dude, do you have an inkling of how much work is involved in these products?

Cclarry,
We get it, you're non-plused, that's fine!
I on the other hand have been using EZD as my goto since I got it; I've never felt it was "dated".
I'm all in!
As to Eco, tried it, big f***ing deal.
But that's just me, I'm not knocking it.
I even "get" why some people love their Strats; but that's way off topic.
 
T

{tongueInCheek}
According to twaddle there is no point in any other drompler. BFD/ECO/3 does it all.
{/tongueInCheek}
 
 
I just could not wrap my head around BFD2 or Eco (own them both) to make them my go to drompler. AD is fairly easy to and I've owned it for several years now. I wish I could really get into Jamstix3 since I own that too. I like Slate's sounds as well as all my NI Abbey Road kits (own them all)......
 
But again, as a hobbyist I find EZDrummer my go to while constructing a song and now EZD2 looks to be a step up for my purposes.
 
Like Dave says, after all is said and done I can always route the MIDI in SD2 (and one day SD3 I'll presume) when I want more control.
 
All in all I have used all my dropmlers in songs except Eco and Jamstix(2 or 3).