2014/03/22 18:35:33
yorolpal
That's the key fellers. Just try as many as you can and use the one (or ones) YOU like the best. And DONT disparage others for preferring something different.

Simplz.



PS:#mixmkr...if you was jawin at me and tryin yor dead level best to speak "colloquial hillbilly" you need some serious remediation. That there's a word I just learned, pardon me while I use it.
2014/03/22 19:00:22
cclarry
Mod Bod
Cclarry, take the Hateraide from your lips and pour it down the sink, Bro.  
 
Eight years and they released Superior 2, EZkeys and 4 libraries, EZmix and two dozen preset packs, 28 (or so) drum libraries, EZplayer, Beatstation, Drumtracker (OK, that one didn't seem to pan out so well) and a bunch of midi libraries as well - not to mention being the first 64 bit drum samplers to hit the market.

Dude, do you have an inkling of how much work is involved in these products?



Development cycle is based on a SINGLE product.  Not on whether or not you produced\
10,000 other products Mod...

I'm not against the product...I just feel that they let this go way to long...

I know as a beta tester Mod  you've got a stake here...so I get it...
 
But SERIOUSLY - no developer should take EIGHT YEARS to get a version increase on 
a SINGLE PRODUCT.  THAT'S RIDICULOUS!!!

I get that everyone likes the EZ part...the less I have to know the better is the motto...

But I seriously can't understand the hoopla...when it should be a lackluster...oh well...another
$100 out the window....when I already have 46 drum Samplers that I'm too G - D lazy to learn...

I'ts G A S...plain and simple...

Dude, do you have an inkling of how much work is involved in these products?


Why yes, as a matter of fact, I do....and it's far harder to rewrite an ENTIRE DAW in less then a year then 
to rework a drum program!!! And yet Noel seems to get the job done...every year...

Seriously?  Mod ...don't EVEN go there.....just DON'T...

As a Database programmer and beta tester for Windows since  Win 3.1....SERIOUSLY?

There is no hatred here boys...JUST PLAIN FACTS...
 
Go buy it...spend you money...I'm just expressing my opinion of a rather LACKLUSTER development
cycle....VERY LACKLUSTER...as is SepticTank...

EZ 2 is merely EZkeys for Drums...with some other improvements...

I'm NOT against it FOR GOD'S SAKE...I'm saying...WHY BUY OUT OF THE GATE when it will be $49 (or less) in 
a month or two?  I guess everyone has money to burn...
 
DER!!!
 
 
2014/03/22 19:15:38
cclarry
btw...I also stated my disdain for the fact that Superior is now 6 years out since V2...
and the fact that Addictive Drums is running a close second...at not keeping up with upgrades
...in a separate thread a while ago...

So it's nothing personal against any product or person...it's about getting the job done...
in a reasonable amount of time...

It seems that it's ok to be angry about  a company leaving a product hanging (i.e..SepticTank) and not continue development on it for 8 years...BUT...if you use the product alot (EZDrummer) then that 8 years is ok...???

Sorry for the cynicism....but I have to call a spade a spade...that's just who I am...
2014/03/22 19:42:09
michaelhanson
I don't think I would call my interest in EZD2 GAS. I really am pretty content with the plugs that I have and am not anxious to buy any more. Purchases this year are going to be because it's something that I just really like.

I am excited about EZD2 because it is a product that I really like. I don't find it strange at all that I would want to buy a product I really like. That doesn't mean that I am going to pick it up the day it's released. I will buy it when my finances dictate that I can.

Dave, keep up the good work Bro. Nothing wrong with being a beta tester for a product you really like either.
2014/03/22 20:46:23
mixmkr
yorolpal


PS:#mixmkr...if you was jawin at me and tryin yor dead level best to speak "colloquial hillbilly" you need some serious remediation. That there's a word I just learned, pardon me while I use it.



Yeah...I've only lived in KY for the last 20 years of my 60...growing up in StL, Chicago and Boston didn't help with the "Travis" accent.
 
Actually $99 aint much even if it is catagorized as gas.  How much does a round of golf cost nowadays?  I see nothing wrong buying products, even used infrequently, because it's something you like and hopefully can afford and purchase wisely (ie...watch dem credit limits boyz..).  I'm sure golf addicts have more than one putter that NEVER get used.
Dang...I just bought a Symetrix 501 limiter, because I "accidentally" won the Ebay auction in the last seconds.  That's old hardware folks and aint even an Eventide or the likes.
2014/03/22 21:57:51
yorolpal
You got that right, ol pal:-)
2014/03/22 22:51:10
clintmartin
cclarry
clintmartin
 
Well I can see where having both would be best. (Thanks for the info) I will upgrade to EZD2, but I will be surprised if the added features and work flow are not added to SD3 at some point in the near future. It just doesn't make sense to allow yourself to get to far behind, when people will gladly pay for you to keep up.



I have to say...this is on par (almost) with SepticTank..and everyone is oo-ing and ah-ing...AGAIN.

8 years for a version update is ludicrous...

It's a great product, I've had it since the beginning, and at least it was somewhat updated...1.33 currently...
that's not a FAR leap in 8 years, it didn't even make it to 1.5,  but at least they went 64 bit a while ago...and they didn't skimp on the on add packs...but, then again, so was ST...at least Toontrack didn't make empty promises...

But I guess that's what GAS does...people don't seem to care about how companies treat them...
or what the company does...all they seem to care about is GAS and what they can spend their next
dollar on...sorry to be the cynic here...but someone has to see the forest for the trees...

Such is life!


We agree most of the time, but not here. This isn't gas. I know it well and do suffer from it often, but EZD2 looks like a major change for the better in the way I work, and the way my brain works when dealing with drums. I also got used to using EZD1 within Sonar to a point that I preferred it to Addictive Drums. So this is really a no-brainer for me. I can see where some people may want to take the completed midi and use Superior or BFD2 if that's their preferred drum sampler, but I don't have either of those and really just want to get on with it.
2014/03/22 23:44:55
jmasno5
Mod Bod
 It goes a bit further than that but I can't go into features that aren't public knowledge yet.


It is now public knowledge!  Go to
http://youtu.be/AArgiZAC3IM   It's  everything you want to know about EZ Drummer 2.  From what I see Superior is still superior for me because of the replacements, layering and bleed control even if you only use EZX's in it. 
HOWEVER...  The new midi pattern builder (for song writing) is going to be great.  I will upgrade for that feature alone.  Nothing is worse than going through thousands of midi patterns and hoping you fine the pattern you are looking for.  This might be the silver bullet I've been looking for.  $149.99 / Upgrade $89.99
2014/03/23 04:36:15
Glyn Barnes
At the back of my mind is will the new features be included in Superior Drummer and when will we see Superior Drummer 3? I don't think $99 is unreasonable for the upgrade but I would not want to find Superior 3 is announced a few months later with the new MIDI features.
 
I like the new MIDI features but would still want to use either Superior or BFD3 in the end.
2014/03/23 08:12:10
cclarry
Ok...here's what I'm saying...

If you will fork over $100 to be one of the first to have it...then it's GAS...
I know many really use the program...but you've been getting the job done
without it for 8 years...so, if you HAVE to buy it when it is first launched...
then it's GAS...because you most certain COULD wait for a sale and get
it for a lot less, rather then pay full price...and use the price difference for 
something else...

What REALLY surprises me is they are not even offering an INTRO price...

Many feel the EXACT same way about SepticTank...they CAN'T WAIT TO GET IT,
even though it's not really NECESSARY...and has been almost 10 years in the making..

THAT is GAS...plain and simple...

I'm not saying DON'T BUY IT...I'm saying that it's HIGH time we started using a little
MORE common sense in these matters...that's all.  But, as I said, if you've got the money
to throw away...then by all means do so...

THAT is all I'm saying about this...
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