2014/03/23 19:50:04
mixmkr
so... are you saying you are glad you were hog-tied?  Is this a musician thing?
2014/03/23 19:51:05
mixmkr
hows that new computer and UA interface treating you nowadays, btw?
 
2014/03/23 21:04:27
Dave Modisette
The new computer is sweet but installing all of this software is tedious.  I've just about got 'er done.  Right now, I'm opening old projects and finding out which odd VST plugin still hasn't been installed and determining whether it's worth the trouble.
 
I still haven't installed Reaper.  I don't have any active projects on it and I don't suspect I'll be doing one any time soon.
2014/03/24 01:03:01
Glyn Barnes
jmasno5
 I get a few hours a week. If you came to my door and said, "John, I can build you a grove search tool so you can build drum tracks in less than half the time," I would gladly pay you $89. just for that alone. That is how important it is to me. Not because it is the latest thing.


I think that's the point. Either for hobbyist with limited time or someone using the software to make a living time is valuable. I am a hobbiest and fortunate enough to have a reasonable disposable income, what I lack is time.
2014/03/24 07:27:47
twaddle
Glyn Barnes
jmasno5
I get a few hours a week. If you came to my door and said, "John, I can build you a grove search tool so you can build drum tracks in less than half the time," I would gladly pay you $89. just for that alone. That is how important it is to me. Not because it is the latest thing.


I think that's the point. Either for hobbyist with limited time or someone using the software to make a living time is valuable. I am a hobbiest and fortunate enough to have a reasonable disposable income, what I lack is time.




I don't quite see how time would be of any great importance for a hobbiest ?
Yes I know if you're in full time employment, have children (or other distractions ) then obviously you don't have the time to spare but you're under no pressure to get projects finished and so in reality you have all the time you need.
 
Steve
2014/03/24 07:27:50
twaddle
Sorry, pressed the submit button twice.
2014/03/24 07:54:13
sven450
twaddle
Glyn Barnes
jmasno5
I get a few hours a week. If you came to my door and said, "John, I can build you a grove search tool so you can build drum tracks in less than half the time," I would gladly pay you $89. just for that alone. That is how important it is to me. Not because it is the latest thing.


I think that's the point. Either for hobbyist with limited time or someone using the software to make a living time is valuable. I am a hobbiest and fortunate enough to have a reasonable disposable income, what I lack is time.




I don't quite see how time would be of any great importance for a hobbiest ?
Yes I know if you're in full time employment, have children (or other distractions ) then obviously you don't have the time to spare but you're under no pressure to get projects finished and so in reality you have all the time you need.
 
Steve




As a hobbiest, I have to say that "having all the time we need" is about as far from the truth as you can get.  Its really a pretty ridiculous statement.... Just because we don't have clients hovering over our shoulders does not mean we don't want to work, and complete projects, and make music.  Having children and lives makes every minute at the guitar and at the DAW that much more valuable. Every moment I spend working on music is basically borrowed time.  If using EZ 2 can get me a drum track in 1/2 the time than AD, then it is easily worth a measly $99.
2014/03/24 07:58:42
twaddle
sven450
twaddle
Glyn Barnes
jmasno5
I get a few hours a week. If you came to my door and said, "John, I can build you a grove search tool so you can build drum tracks in less than half the time," I would gladly pay you $89. just for that alone. That is how important it is to me. Not because it is the latest thing.


I think that's the point. Either for hobbyist with limited time or someone using the software to make a living time is valuable. I am a hobbiest and fortunate enough to have a reasonable disposable income, what I lack is time.




I don't quite see how time would be of any great importance for a hobbiest ?
Yes I know if you're in full time employment, have children (or other distractions ) then obviously you don't have the time to spare but you're under no pressure to get projects finished and so in reality you have all the time you need.
 
Steve




As a hobbiest, I have to say that "having all the time we need" is about as far from the truth as you can get.  Its really a pretty ridiculous statement.... Just because we don't have clients hovering over our shoulders does not mean we don't want to work, and complete projects, and make music.  Having children and lives makes every minute at the guitar and at the DAW that much more valuable. Every moment I spend working on music is basically borrowed time.  If using EZ 2 can get me a drum track in 1/2 the time than AD, then it is easily worth a measly $99.




 
Of course you have all the time you need and it's equally ridiculous to say you don't, the fact is you do.
 
You might want to get it finished and that's fine but don't say I'm being ridiculous because the fact is you are only under the pressure you put your self under and that down to you.
 
What's the hurry ?
 
Steve
2014/03/24 08:24:33
sven450
Twaddle:  Thank god!  You've told me I have all the time I need to also make music, so I'm fine!  Thank you!  I feel a new hope!  I won't be bothering with EZ2 anymore.  I've decided with all the extra time you've decided I have I'm just going to learn how to play drums.
 
I'm off the the DW factory to buy a custom kit with all my made up money, too!
 
But seriously, its not a "hurry", but you must know that time is precious to all of us.  I'm driven to make music because I love it, and that entails getting it done when the moment strikes, somewhere between full time work and full time family. I find I have to work in 15 min. spurts sometimes.  You must see how a time saving piece of software like EZ2 would benefit someone like me, right?
2014/03/24 08:42:46
twaddle
Of course I can see how saving time can be of benefit although I have my doubts as to it being half an hour as has been claimed in this thread.
 
But my point was that time can be crucial for those who are in the business whereas for hobbiests it isn't.
Even for people who are signed to record companies (and I know plenty) time is more important but a lot of the better companies care as much about artistic integrity than record sales so they don't put so much pressure on you.
But if you writing broadcast music for adverts and jingles than time is often critical but for the hobbiest it isn't the same and that was the point I was trying to make.
 
But I agree and feel I it myself that the less time spent doing the mundane things frees up more time for the fun stuff which has to be a good thing and I'm certainly not trying to suggest you shouldn't buy EZdrummer or anything else if it's what you think you need.
I on the other hand like to take my time and as someone who writes my own midi drums in the piano roll the slow way it's not of any great importance to me. I actually enjoy writing my own drum tracks for many reasons.
 
Steve
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