Karyn

spacey... having to settle for
what's offered rather than what I'd want ...

You're kidding,  right?

Not in the least.
Some may settle for something that isn't what they were looking for.
If I can't get exactly what I want then I'll keep looking until I do....or build it myself. And that is why they will not be selling me one. Unfortunate too...I have other anniversary Strats and would like to add to my collection and nothing about the 60th's is what I'd want.
 
And the very bad part of their "build your own" trip is they're not even offering features that are common to their guitars.
 
And what's inbetween the lines;
Karyn asked me to build a guitar that I don't build. When informed that I didn't she was willing to settle
for less...I wasn't. I then knew what she wanted and couldn't supply it and refused to build something else (less) for her.
 
It was very obvious at the time that it upset her and she didn't understand my position and it's obvious now.
 
She is not the first that I couldn't build for and she won't be the last. I did the only thing I could do- apologize for not being able to build what she wanted.
 
 
 
 

spacey
And what's inbetween the lines;
Karyn asked me to build a guitar that I don't build. When informed that I didn't she was willing to settle
for less...I wasn't. I then knew what she wanted and couldn't supply it and refused to build something else (less) for her.
 
It was very obvious at the time that it upset her and she didn't understand my position and it's obvious now.
 
She is not the first that I couldn't build for and she won't be the last. I did the only thing I could do- apologize for not being able to build what she wanted.

"Karyn asked me to build a guitar that I don't build."
 
This is a lie.
 
I never asked for or wanted those items.  I just put forward suggestions for discussion. The guitar wasn't for me. I wanted your opinion. I got a kick up the arse for my trouble.

Karyn

spacey
And what's inbetween the lines;
Karyn asked me to build a guitar that I don't build. When informed that I didn't she was willing to settle
for less...I wasn't. I then knew what she wanted and couldn't supply it and refused to build something else (less) for her.
 
It was very obvious at the time that it upset her and she didn't understand my position and it's obvious now.
 
She is not the first that I couldn't build for and she won't be the last. I did the only thing I could do- apologize for not being able to build what she wanted.

"Karyn asked me to build a guitar that I don't build."
 
This is a lie.
 
I never asked for or wanted those items.  I just put forward suggestions for discussion. The guitar wasn't for me. I wanted your opinion. I got a kick up the arse for my trouble.

It is not a lie. You requested what you wanted, I declined and tried to explain when you asked why, numereous times- but I know it's something that will never be seen the same way by us.
 
I can say that it is not the first time that I've declined a build and it is the first time that my reasons were not understood and appreciated....and in fact taken as a kick in the arse and trouble.
 
 
 
 
 

spacey

Karyn

spacey
And what's inbetween the lines;
Karyn asked me to build a guitar that I don't build. When informed that I didn't she was willing to settle
for less...I wasn't. I then knew what she wanted and couldn't supply it and refused to build something else (less) for her.
 
It was very obvious at the time that it upset her and she didn't understand my position and it's obvious now.
 
She is not the first that I couldn't build for and she won't be the last. I did the only thing I could do- apologize for not being able to build what she wanted.

"Karyn asked me to build a guitar that I don't build."
 
This is a lie.
 
I never asked for or wanted those items.  I just put forward suggestions for discussion. The guitar wasn't for me. I wanted your opinion. I got a kick up the arse for my trouble.

It is not a lie. You requested what you wanted, I declined and tried to explain when you asked why, numereous times- but I know it's something that will never be seen the same way by us.
 
I can say that it is not the first time that I've declined a build and it is the first time that my reasons were not understood and appreciated....and in fact taken as a kick in the arse and trouble.
 

No, I didn't.  You never gave me the chance.   I made some suggestions for discussion, to get your opinion. All you gave me was "I'm not building for you"

Nothing has changed. Nothing will change.
 
 

What part of "I did not request those parts" is so damn hard to understand?

Karyn
No, I didn't.  You never gave me the chance.   I made some suggestions for discussion, to get your opinion. All you gave me was "I'm not building for you"

How can you say that?
I have no desire to quote you but you seem set on believing something other than the simple truth.
I didn't understand when you became upset and I still don't.
You surely must agree that it was a horrible experience and we should be glad I stopped it when I did.
 
 
And that is not what I said...I said, "I'm sorry, I have to decline the build."
Even then you took it personal after being explained why with my reasons being valid. I can't and won't tell anybody I'll build something I don't want to or can't build.
Pretty strange but I can't change it. Sometimes "sorry" just isn't enough.
 
 

I guess I better not bring up Gibson in this thread. :-)

MakeShift
I guess I better not bring up Gibson in this thread. :-)

Maybe they'll start a design your own too.
 
It's to bad that many things that people try to enjoy can have such negative results.
I've been around here long enough to have seen it happen with just about anything one can imagine.
Anything from jokes to serious topics.
 
We've seen many give up. They may try to explain their reasoning but nothing changes the fact that
they have to eliminate participating when it turns what they enjoy into a bad experience.  What matters is learning what does and doesn't work so that one can continue enjoying themselves.
 
I have spent the last few months "fine tuning" many of the processes of how I work in my shop. Trying to increase safety and accuracy...something I do with most aspects of my life.
Experience helps gain knowledge to know what to do and how to do it. Sometimes the lessons are easy and sometimes they are costly.
 
I have eliminated many "things" I do on the internet simply because it had negative effects on things I enjoy.
I didn't need to know why- the results and knowing how to eliminate the effect was and is very simple to correct.
 
Kind of strange but the timing of another issue/aspect of building guitars presented itself so it's a simple correction in order to eliminate negative results.
I've had experience with building with nothing to go on but "words on a screen" to person to person and have learned that "on-line" is something best avoided. It's not necessary and an unnecessary risk.
I will not be doing it again.
 
 
I tried to share builds (for the interest) while making it very clear that I am not in the business of building and selling guitars.
It is a hobby that I enjoyed sharing and may share projects in the future but I would like it to be known that
I can not and will not attempt building a guitar through the forums. I knew it wouldn't be right to do if I were building to sell and now I know it's not right even if the build is for the fun of it for a member.
 
Michael
 
 
 
 
 
 

Hey Michael,
 
I love your threads about guitar building.  It's something that I hope to attempt sometime during my life.  Any thread on guitars or amps, I am going to click on.  I think I remember McQ posting photo's of some of the amps he has built as well.  I don't know if I am technically capable of working with electronics, but I think it would be cool to see someone like McQ do a thread on the step by step process of some of the builds he has done. 
 
I find that what is written in forums can often come across the wrong way.  If two people were sitting together in person and having a discussion, you can see the expressions on their face and hear the tone of their voice.  The one dimensional conversations that take place on forums, lose those important aspects of conversation.  Many times on Facebook, other forums and this one on occasion, what I was trying to say does n't quite come across correctly in writing.  I just had someone on FB last week feel that I was attacking them on something and it was not the case at all.  I was jabbing them a little with a smile on my face and cheer in my heart, but in print, those things got lost.  I need to learn to use smiley faces more often I guess.
 
Any who....I like your threads and always learn something from them.