2012/11/10 11:46:48
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
No, my video card is not fanless.

I was lucky to come across a professional company in Berlin that apparently built a couple of fancy DAWs before and they told me not to use a passive video card. They had troubles before with passive cards in audio workstations (somehow didn't work with some audio software and had to be replaced). So we went with a low spec video card that doesn't cause much heat and hence can work with a small fan ... audio software doesn't need fancy gamer 3D graphics anyway ...

However, the fan on that 6 core cpu is massive (yet quiet silent) ... as I said the VS-700 makes more 'noise' ...
2012/11/10 17:30:01
Crg
Hey Bertl, didn't you say the Fantom VS in your unit was working in 64 bit?
2012/11/10 19:41:54
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
Hi Craig

It was all working on my old DAW (X1d, X2 on win 7 64 bit), but you made me nervous  that it might not work on the new DAW so I just completed the fantom VS-700 & fantom set-up, following the steps from here:

https://www.cakewalk.com/Support/kb/pages/vs700_installation.aspx  (select: Sonar X1, VS-700 Set)

Now fantom works on the new DAW (X1d, X2, win 7 64 bit) just like it used to on the old one i.e. as a 32 bit plugin via bitbridge, but I had none of the problems you described in another thread.
 
Fantom sounds as good as it used ... I only noticed that at those tiny ASIO buffer that I could use now (48!) it sort of starts to stutter while other soft synths, audio trcks and FX still work fine ...

2012/11/10 19:56:15
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
Funny thing ... I just checked the link above which I used in May to get all available updates. 

At step 5 "Fantom VS x64 Hotfix. Click here for more info. " it now says" this article is expired" but I just installed that fix from the download in May and everything is working fine ...

The documentation said something about holding SHIFT while starting Sonar. Did you try that?
2012/11/10 19:58:29
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
Maybe that helps (in case you haven't seen it yet)

http://www.cakewalk.com/support/kb/pages/Fantom_VS_ARX_Troubleshooting.aspx

2012/11/10 20:17:24
Crg
I've seen them all Bert. When you installed Sonar, did you do a custom install and include the VS 700 and Fantom Software included with the Sonar install? I assume you did a 64 bit install on both Sonar and the Fantom VS installer. I'm showing 2 instances of the Fantom in the plugin Manager. I'm trying to figure out if they're overwriting each other when loading. Since the installer version is the progression of the hot fix, I'm wondering if there's some conflict in play there if you've installed the first set of Fantom VS software and the second set.
2012/11/10 20:18:43
Crg
Shift? No, I didn't see that.
2012/11/11 02:58:59
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
Crg


When you installed Sonar, did you do a custom install and include the VS 700 and Fantom Software included with the Sonar install? I assume you did a 64 bit install on both Sonar and the Fantom VS installer. I'm showing 2 instances of the Fantom in the plugin Manager. I'm trying to figure out if they're overwriting each other when loading. Since the installer version is the progression of the hot fix, I'm wondering if there's some conflict in play there if you've installed the first set of Fantom VS software and the second set.
 
Hi. I did not use that VS700 and Fantom software from the X2 installer. I had left that all unchecked when installing Sonar, but at the end installed VS IO/ARX Editor from the download.
 
I remember now that I used to have some troubles with that VS700 and Fantom software from the X2 installer when I upgraded my old DAW. There I had reorganised my plugs by moving them to a different directory (stupid I know) and when I did the X2 full installation, I had 2 versions with different dates and the newer did not behave as expected. I blamed it on my garbled set-up, and just went with the old version ... 
  
Since everything worked fine from there onwards, I just didn't bother with the latest version from the X2 installer (as there are no documented fixed issues and I never had any problems with) ... and it's not 64 bit anyway, as far as I know ...
 
I'd try to move one of your 2 instances (or rename) and redo the VST scan and see if this fixes it. I'd probably go with the older of the 2 dlls as this is what's running on my machine.
 
Maybe that helps ... 

 
 
2012/11/11 03:05:11
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
Crg


Shift? No, I didn't see that.


5. On your computer keyboard hold down the SHIFT key and launch SONAR
6. When prompted with the message "SONAR will now personalize user settings"... click [OK]
 
@ end of Fantom VS Editor & ARX Editor Installer https://www.cakewalk.com/Support/kb/reader.aspx/2007013246
2012/11/11 16:52:05
Crg
Oh, yes, been through all of that Bertl. I loaded a new project inserted the Fantom VS and the Editor loaded with all the menus and worked. I then deleted the Fantom and loaded Fantom VS #2, the Editor loaded with no patchs in the channels and the drop down lists were all GM items. I deleted the synth and closed the project. I deleted Fantom #2 from the file directory-VST Plugins and it vanished from the plugin manager also.
I opened my older project again, deleted the Fantom from that project and inserted a new Fantom VS in which I rebuilt my prior instruments and settings. I saved the project, closed it, re-opened it and all the patchs and settings were retained. So that's workable now.
The 64 bit Fantom Editor loads differently than the 32 bit did. X-ray doesn't work with it, when I first open the project with the Editor open, I can play notes and do adjustments, if I minimize the Editor and open it again, I get no sound while it is open, and when I minimize it, all the notes I tried to play while it was open, are suddenly released and sounded. Some kind of glitch going on there. I still have no top patch drop down menu and save button controls as before. I am making progress though.
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