2014/02/16 23:54:43
sharke
My steel string needs some potentially serious work on it. It's been unused for a while because I've been favoring my nylon string, but recently when I took it out of the closet and restrung it, it was immediately apparent that I couldn't wind the strings up to pitch. I then noticed that the saddle has cracks running horizontally through the peg holes, and I suspect that this is what the problem is. I've played guitar for 25 years but have never taken an interest in guitar repair so know nothing about it. Here's the saddle - do you reckon it's fixable? Or can I get a new one made? What kind of ballpark price would I be looking at? Actually I would like to get a new one made if possible because I was never 100% happy with the string spacing, and it's evident from the photo that they are a little uneven:
 

 
Another thing I noticed is that the fretboard has developed some small cracks in it like so:
 

 
Should I be worried about these? Or is having a new fretboard made viable? 
 
It really is a lovely sounding guitar with incredible volume and projection, perfect for fingerstyle - the father of a friend made it for me years ago. It was one of his very first attempts at a guitar so it's a big rough round the edges (his later efforts were absolutely stunning). It's also a little beat up - I bummed around southern Spain with it for a bit, and I used the bash the hell out of it with steel fingerpicks and gauge 14 strings. So in summary, a fantastic sounding guitar with sentimental value that I'd really like to restore to its former "glory" and am willing to spend a bit of money. Any suggestions? 
 

2014/02/17 00:16:13
yorolpal
I'm guessing it's never been kept properly humidified. I've faced the same problems...tho not as severe as your fretboard. I've also seen luthiers fix guitars with what seemed to me impossible problems. But that fretboard looks pretty bad. Seek professional help.
2014/02/17 00:19:47
sharke
Ah yes that would explain a lot, it probably happened slowly over the years with being exposed to the ferocious heating in this apartment which dried the air something rotten before I had it shut off. I presume a luthier would just fill those cracks? 
2014/02/17 00:35:20
Grem
Ole pal I think hit the nail on the head. To me it looked like it was drying out when I first saw the pics. I would take it to a professional. They can do really amazing things with beat up guitars.

Good luck with it. Looks like a keeper for sure.
2014/02/17 01:36:51
sharke
I'm having a surprising amount of trouble finding one in the city. This might be one of those "upstate" trips...
2014/02/17 01:52:18
Rain
Ouch. It actually physically hurts me to see those pics (and I've been known to abuse and smash guitars in my days). That being said, I've seen luthiers work miracles.
 
I seem to remember a little shop I used to pass in from regularly on my way to RCMH. Worst case, maybe the folks in stores like Sam Ash or GC could refer you to someone? 
 
Good luck with the guitar, anyway. 
 
2014/02/17 02:10:50
sharke
I've made small attempts at asking in GC and Sam Ash but have gotten blank replies. There's a guy on the Upper West Side who's done some electric work for me who I should probably get in contact with again. He's not a luthier but might know someone who is. 
2014/02/17 02:50:57
ampfixer
The lack of humidity is showing, but the guitar can be repaired. It needs to be re-humidified and stabilized before anything can really be done with it. The bridge is split and will have to be removed. It can then be repaired with glue or replaced. When the tech is working on the bridge he can put a wood shim in the saddle slot and clean up the saddle.
 
Before you sink any money into the guitar you should have fully inspected. When things start to split in several places the internal supports need to be checked to ensure the braces haven't popped off or cracked.
 
I would guess you're looking at $300 to start. YMMV
2014/02/17 05:16:13
Karyn
Can't you send it to Spacey?
2014/02/17 06:06:34
spacey
I'm trying to wake up enjoying my morning coffee so...
 
Yes it could be sent to me. Probably cost more to ship it than repair it.
 
If it has a truss-rod it looks to me like it was under a lot of tension (from the strings).
If that split in the fretboard is just what is shown and not all the way and there is no effect to the frets I wouldn't worry about it.
I'd take of the bridge and tension issue, treat the fretboard and play it.
 
 
Without strings- wrap the pegs with wax paper (so glue won't get them) and spread that crack open.
Put glue in the crack, take the pegs out and clamp tight. (work out how to clamp and tape the face of the guitar before starting).
 
Do not over oil treat the fretboard. A very light treatment once a year is probably fine.
 
IF it was a humidity issue I'd expect to see the face of the body cracked before that fretboard or bridge...but it's a picture.
What's the cost of to glue and clamp a bridge ?...if you use that heavy a gauge...tune down a little and give the old girl a break.
 
So...real heavy strings - a lot of tension so the truss-rod working hard and somebody drove the pegs in very hard to keep the strings from popping them out...they went in to far-split the bridge and the fretboard started showing the pressure from the truss-rod..but not bad enough to effect frets (?).
 
That's my guess from looking at the picture....so what's ya think Dr. Watson?  lol. good morning everybody.
 
 
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