2014/02/26 21:31:26
Jeff Evans
I would use your sounds for sure but only if there were more price options like I said perhaps a smaller library for less. That would be great.
 
There is more than dark as well. And light. That is only two aspects to ambient music. There is every shade in between. That is what is so incredible about ambient music it is almost infinite in nature.
 
You should listen to Brain Eno around 'On Land Ambient 4' era. An amazing album. Those textures are all very different yet ambient in nature. (My definition of the word ambient as well is no rhythms present in any form. The term is used today but means something else now) For dark there is the likes of Stomu Yamashta 'Iroha' That is dark, bodering on death. Interesting though is that right at the end he turns it all around into the light, it is quite incredible.
 
I am not interested either in making my own libraries, far too busy for that being a creative sensiitive emotional musician.
 
2014/02/26 21:43:18
dnekm
Just let it go.... You are not going to change me or where I come from..
 
You can not change that...
 
Citing Eno as an influence... I could do that... but I would rather choose to place the influence on those I have known personally... And they will remain nameless...
 
See, I am not predicating that things should be done one certain way and no other...  That is is beauty and expression of what one feels, inside. We are all free to express this....
2014/02/26 22:08:47
dnekm
It took a while to register.... But you think my story interesting.... ? You have no idea...
2014/02/27 11:03:48
AT
Good stuff - tho not for everyone.  250 presets, as advertised, using the anomaly samples.  Mostly long, ramp up drones.  Ominous and thick.  The performance pad (and x/y pads) add a lot of movement (change) to many of the programs.  I didn't go through all of them - I like surprises when I'm looking for such sounds once the rhythm of a song is established.  Besides, 250 programs times the pad settings times different pitches equals a lot of time to check them all out.
 
If the presets seem like they're in the same mode - they are.  Most of them can't be used like traditional, smooth pads - which collections of strike me as more similar in nature than Anomaly.  How many times have I looked in the Rapt/DimPro (and others - not picking on Réne here) "PADS" folder and couldn't tell much difference between  them. 
 
It is easy to change the sound w/o mucking around too much, even w/o the performance pads.  The mod wheel can make large changes (and not just tremolo).  But Alchemy is a synth, so it is very easy to get in and change the elements  themselves.  I like me some buzzy sounds, and not too many of these here in the presets (or one's I've found yet).  A little quick programming can always add "buzz buzz buzz" as Hamlet sez, so I'm not worried about that part.  And the sample set is really nice to have.  Haven't yet tried any in other synths, but will (you don't mind, David, do you?).
 
As above, not for everybody.  Folk singers need not apply.  But if you use the dark force in your music, this is a good collection.  It reminds me a little of Biomechanical's stuff, tho not as bouncy or buzzy.  Maybe that is where the "similar in nature" comments come from.  However, you can't play the pads in the demos.  Like most preset collections (even those w/o their own sample set), there is good stuff right out of the box and lots (and lots and lots in this collection) of wonderful starting points that 5 minutes of intelligent use of time can personalize.
 
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2014/02/27 19:35:01
dnekm
The Anomaly soundsets, that is the individual volumes, come with presets for Wusikstation, Dimension Pro, Rapture, Absynth and Kontakt. The .SFZ and/or .WAV files will load in any instrument that can load .SFZ and/or .WAV files.
 
Note about trying the sounds in Absynth - to get the sounds to loop you have to manually enter the loop points.
2014/02/27 23:14:30
Jeff Evans
I forgot about using the raw wave files themselves. Even with the free demo they can be used very creatively. I actually don't use Sonar but Studio One and there is a great sampler in there calle Sample One. Very easy to drag those waves in there and play in a lot of different ways. Once you start transposing things they take on a new sound too.
 
But more importantly I have only just discovered the free sounds that are on Daniel's Website. These are great and I thank you very much for those Daniel. I have got Wusik 6 and just downloaded the patches that only use the sounds that come with Wusik and they are great! Very nice indeed. I do have other libraries installed actually so I will go back and check them too.
 
But if any of you have got Wusik get some of those great free patches they are well worth it. And if you have got more than the standard libraries installed there are free patches in there for them as well.
 
2014/02/28 05:59:04
dnekm
You can also get the very first Anomaly as a free soundfont file if you go to the Wraith VSTi page....
2014/03/04 04:53:04
dnekm
I should probably just let this go, but I cannot....
 
Jeff, you make the point - several times - that this soundset is too expensive. Yet it offers 100 presets and 800 variations more than any current Camel soundset for just $15 more. And it offers over 250 source sounds, well above what is found in any official Camel soundset.
 
These sounds are gathered from Anomalies VII through XIX, which sell individually on average for $15. So your wish to see smaller packages with less sounds exists. But without presets for Alchemy. You would have to make these yourself.
 
Yes, it is a very specialized collection of sounds, by intent. I focus on dark sounds. In a unique way.
 
You mention that these sounds could be created by using sounds already existing within other Alchemy soundsets and in Alchemy - they cannot. You are free to try. I would welcome hearing the outcome of any such experiments.
 
And lastly - that there is nothing new or original within Anomaly. Feel free to point out anything that sounds the same.
 
I would finally like to apologize for taking some statements too personally, but you caught me at a time when I had just finished working on a project for over two months, non-stop and only sleeping between 4 to 5 hours per night. So I spent some time after that blowing off some steam. My judgement may not have been the best. I should not post on public forums when I am in that mindset, but what is done, is done.
 
All in all, Anomaly is not for you. You are welcome to that opinion.
2014/03/04 09:24:06
Jeff Evans
Daniel it's cool, and I may have not fully understood either what this total library is all about. What has impressed me and led me to understand it much more is that great free soundset in Sound Font format on the Wraith VSTi page.
 
This is an excellent soundset and I highly recommend it to anyone wanting to get a taste of what Anomaly is all about and it is free too. I am not exactly sure if and what Cakewalk synths will load up the sound font format but Presence certainly does in Studio One. And it just installed permanently as part of its library now.
 
All of these presets (and there are many) are very playable and I like the fact that you can transpose them over a wide range and also create total multipart textures that consist of variations and combinations of them too.  I realise this is not as powerful as the Alchemy version but it does give you a very good idea of what those types of sounds are like.
 
I can see why now mixing them up with lighter or much more inside and musical presets would have been silly. The Alchemy library I imagine is specialised for sure and more powerful too but for those who really need lots of these types of things it would be good.
 
I think you can make dark textures with existing Alchemy sounds but not with just the factory presets alone. I meant using quite a few of their other libraries. These sort of sounds would only be similar in genre not the detail or individual nature of Anomaly itself. I agree you would only get those from your soundset.
 
I also really like the Wusik presets too. There are some really great sounds (dark and all ambient) and I find these go well with the free Anomaly soundset. I also checked out what Wusik libraries I did have and downloaded all the free presets that used them and there were many and those sounds are all great. Thanks again for the free Anomaly sound font and all those great Wusik presets.
 
You have sort of got me back into Wusik again. I knew I had it of course but it is also easy to forget and get caught up in using a lot of other VST's. Wusik can sound huge and detailed and very complex as well. It is quite an incredible instrument.
 
I may not jump in right now and buy Anomaly for Alchemy but if I had a job where I had to create a lot of that material I would. For now I am having lots of fun and really enjoying mixing up the free Anomaly sound font presets and blending them with your great dark Wusik sounds.
2014/03/04 19:06:25
dnekm
Jeff,
 
Thank you...
 
Don't forget about these presets, from my old Wusikstation Preset Exchange site:
 
http://westgatesounds.net/WPE/index.html
 
Wusikstation is actually a very special instrument. I always wind up coming back to it for sound design.
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