What are some of the tools one might use to chop up and perhaps extract clips and loops ect....on one hand to make loops from larger files and also to extract one shots from clips..thanks i probably just need to learn to use clip view better but I am interested to see if there are more dedicated programs for this....thanks

There are many ways to tackle this and I use several depending on the project.  For extracting one shots from longer clips I still use an old fashioned standalone wave editor.  For me that is usually Sound Forge Pro 10. Most of the time use that for slicing as well. For something simple like a simple breakbeat, it will autocreate regions and export individual slices based on those regions. It won't automatically generate a corresponding midi file like Recycle, but if I am slicing up something, odds are I am not using it in it's original order anyway.
 
Some samplers and drum samplers will also slice very well.  Geist does a great job at such things and will even do a decent job of creating and categorizing drum slices into categories like "kick", "snare", etc. The free sampler tx16wx  http://www.tx16wx.com/ is a nice sampler that has a built in wav editor and slicer as well.  Geist does work more like an mpc style sampler, but this is free and worth looking at even if you purchased something else.
 
Last but not least the built in Sonar option is using audio snap.  I have used this method with some success.  The only reason this is not used more by me is because of some limitations in session drummer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYV_BPqk_GQ

kaylen
What are some of the tools one might use to chop up and perhaps extract clips and loops ect....on one hand to make loops from larger files and also to extract one shots from clips..thanks i probably just need to learn to use clip view better but I am interested to see if there are more dedicated programs for this....thanks

I use an oldie - Izotope phatmatik pro - for this myself. Great tool but way past it's Best-by date. It is abandonware and 32 bit only so doesn't help you much. It works ok in Bitbridge and JBridge but I notice Bitbridge hangs sometimes in SONAR x3c. So - I am shopping myself, and the most intriguing option to me seems to be Imageline's "Slicex" VSTi. $79 - not sure if it is 64 bit however, as Imageline have been late to convert their plugins to 64bit. The other option might be to pick up a versions of FL Studio and host it as a VSTi in SONAR. the Fruity Slicer is supposed to have the same functionality as Slicex does as a VSTi.
Anybody using Slicex?

thanks for both replies,that is good info...I have FL studio but do not use it much,,,I will also look at geist and soundforge,and the txd16wx,,,thanks again

so far Geist is looking most like what i was looking for,and I did find an easy way to extract one shots with FLstudio. but would love to hear of other possibilities, are there products simier to geist?

Maschine has upgraded it's software. Of coirse this means adding hardware. If you are looking for an MPC type sampling and slicing solution on steroids that is another option.

Btw..geist is om sale for $99. Try the demo.

dubdisciple
Btw..geist is om sale for $99. Try the demo.

Crap - another sale - thanks Dub.
I'm saving all kinds of money....
 
LOL

check out linplug's rm-v if you haven't already http://www.linplug.com/rmv.html and they're also having a 33% off thing during december :)

lawp
check out linplug's rm-v if you haven't already http://www.linplug.com/rmv.html and they're also having a 33% off thing during december :)

lawp - 
Thanks that's a good find. Could actually save me a bit as I have an old license for RMIII that I haven't used in a long long time - but it's eligible for an upgrade to RMV for $39. If I can locate a license. The problem with these sales is you start looking around and... before you know it...