2014/01/23 02:30:08
Rain
The song is cool, it's got that 80s metal vibe and all. But I don't understand the guitar solo at all - it seems way, way, way out there a lot of the time.
 
http://www.youtube.com/wa...cYc0&feature=share

Solo starts at 2:45 ish - from 2:58 on, he starts losing me... Must be 10 times and I still can't wrap my brain around it. I get the chord changes but not the notes he chose. Can he really be as off as I hear him on record and neither him nor anyone in the studio noticed?
 
I can dig the sloppiness et all but not like that.


I'd almost rather it be me who doesn't get it. But my teeth hurt when I hear it, which is never a good sign...

I've pre-ordered the album nonetheless, I'm just too glad that the man is back.
2014/01/23 03:06:38
craigb
It's you.
 
Hehe...  J/K.  Looks like he's bending a string behind the nut at the start.  Maybe he dorked up his tuning on that string and just went with it from there?
 
(Sorry, but I just couldn't help thinking I was watching an Ozzy cover band for the first minute there!  )
2014/01/23 03:19:20
Rain
The Bark at the Moon reference is pretty obvious, yeah. :P
 
I know I've gotten pickier in recent years and worked on developing a better ear, but not like that. Honestly, to me, it doesn't sound like just drifting out of tune - it sounds like venturing boldly out of anything that would sound right. :/
2014/01/23 03:25:34
craigb
Kind of like when Neal Schon was on stage with some other greats and played an entire lead in the wrong key?
2014/01/23 03:26:36
jamesg1213
I'm sure he knows what he's doing by now..but yeah, it sounds like ****.
2014/01/23 03:34:03
Rain
I remember years ago I read an article in a guitar magazine - Yngwie was reviewing songs and I thought he sounded like a total prick because he systematically complained that the guitar was out of tune.
 
I'd never dare compare myself not even with the guy who changes strings on his guitars, but I'm starting to think that I might sound like a prick for many folks too.
 
Thanks for confirming guys. I always doubt myself.
2014/01/23 03:49:11
craigb
Now, about that singer...
2014/01/23 04:11:28
Rain
craigb
Now, about that singer...




I have to say I didn't pay that much attention. The guy had such a nightmarish first show - and in this day and age, buddah knows how you'll get your arse ripped off when that happens... I skipped most of it but it didn't seem tat bad. Is it?
2014/01/23 09:46:18
Beepster
Just took a listen. It makes sense but he's taking some interesting left turns as to how he's interpreting the harmony. Like the progression is changing in a semi quirky way and with each change he's choosing one of the not so obvious or traditional modal options.
 
Also his style is similar to mine. Really aggressive and never really letting the note rest at it's natural tone. Like he's constantly bending the string to where he wants it which gives it some life as opposed to that hyper sterile sound a band like Necrophagist uses for it's solos. It does sound like he might be slightly out of tune because when the notes do seem to settle they're a touch low but I'm almost thinking he INTENTIONALLY tuned his guitar down a couple cents so that he'd be forced to keep that wild/bendy style going.
 
I started developing that kind of style because of playing on crappy/poorly intonated/warped guitars. Every note I'd fret would get bent into tune as I played (which I think any really seasoned player does a little bit subconsciously anyway). Now I think it sounds cool but I don't play intentionally out of tune guitars to achieve the effect.
 
Now one of my favorite players who was AWFUL for letting his guits go out of tune was Albert King. It's like he refused to use a tuner and would CONSTANTLY fiddle with the tuning pegs while playing throwing himself further and further out of whack. Very distracting while watching his live stuff.
2014/01/23 10:12:19
Guitarhacker
I listened and the band rocks ..... I think he knocked his tuning out there with the nut bend...... and as far as the solo, yeah, considering it's the "official" video, he should have retracked that solo.... it was obviously off from everything else (melodically) that he was playing in the song. Just that center section of the solo was weird..... but you could hear the out of tune string as he completed  the solo.
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