I don't generally hear the term as a rebuttal. More of a statement of comparison, maybe more of a way to infer a similarity or a dissimilarity.
I like em' both. They are fruit but they are totally different in many ways too. They say tomatoes are actually a fruit but that's another subject I guess.
I was looking at videos from the deepest ocean depths the other day and I came away from that thinking, Man, the sheer variety is really still unknown. There are things down there that make their own light and things that can live on underwater volcano spouts at hundreds of degrees. They are almost boiling but doing just fine down there.But most people think of anything in the ocean as a fish. Some of these things don't look anything like anything else and probably aren't.
Look at figs. Now there's a real difference.Not even roundish like apples or oranges. I won't even go there but to say that everything came from one or two things takes a lot of imagination.