2014/01/08 10:10:35
bitflipper
By now many of you have seen Dave Grohl's documentary, so you'll be interested to hear Ian Shepherd's comments on the mastering of the accompanying CD. He's not very happy about it.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3aCNalLojQ
 
2014/01/08 10:42:26
gswitz
TX for info.
2014/01/08 11:01:05
SteveStrummerUK
 
That's really interesting.
 
There's also some good stuff in his two videos regarding remasters of Green Day's American Idiot and Michael Jackson's Thriller.
2014/01/08 12:02:52
jamesg1213
Amazing how this 'loudness wars' nonsense refuses to go away..everything still has a volume control..
2014/01/08 12:17:37
batsbrew
this seems to make all of dave grohl's efforts to use killer analog gear useless once it was mastered.
 
honestly, what was the point?
2014/01/08 13:45:19
craigb
If I wanted a sausage, I'd go to the butcher's shop.
 
I found it interesting that I couldn't really hear the big difference until I put headphones on, then it became very apparent!  (I guess that means I need to stop reviewing songs with my PC speakers, ya?)
2014/01/09 20:53:06
maximumpower
bitflipper
By now many of you have seen Dave Grohl's documentary, so you'll be interested to hear Ian Shepherd's comments on the mastering of the accompanying CD. He's not very happy about it.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3aCNalLojQ
 


That was very interesting. Thanks for posting it.
2014/01/09 21:39:47
sharke
When I was younger and didn't know anything about audio I made a vague observation to myself that some of my CD's needed turning up way more than others, but that when they were turned up to the same volume they somehow sounded better than the "louder" CD's. And one of these was Joe Jackson's "Body And Soul," which I always thought was a great sounding album. I was therefore very pleased years later to see it on Bob Katz's Honor Roll of Dynamic Recordings. My ears had taste!
2014/01/10 13:56:02
Starise
 
Interesting read. They say the devil is in the details.
 
Watching video of one of David's albums in the making. They had the drum kit set up in his untreated garage and it was giving the engineer a run for his money to get it recorded. When I seen that I have wondered if maybe they resorted to drum replacement . I didn't see how they could have captured a good take.They went to Pro Tools with those takes, so it appeared to me original analog kind of took a back seat to production demands early on.
 
Add to that  mastering similar to what happened with Metallica and I also see very little return on efforts to capture a true analog album. Of course  Grohl is Grohl and he sold albums regardless. Like Bono, he can afford to be eccentric in his methodology and still make a huge profit.
2014/01/11 12:26:05
bitflipper
A great performance of a great song trumps anything we can do to it electronically.
 
I've just been listening to Creedence Clearwater Revival's Greatest Hits. Sounds like it was recorded in a garage - from the next room. Those tunes still make me smile, though.
 
Last night I had the headphones on while tediously grinding away on my elliptical exercise machine, listening to Queen's Greatest Hits. With good headphones you can hear plenty of what many would consider recording "mistakes". But when Freddie screams "get on your bikes and ride!" I am infused with renewed energy to keep going. 
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