2014/01/26 13:09:32
bapu
cclarry
Remember, the "objective" is to SELL!!!

Except in the case of ST3.
2014/01/26 13:24:18
bitflipper
Sadly, what we usually get is a re-hash of the product advertisement from the Company's mouth
in a review.

Ain't that the truth.
 
I googled "Pro-MB dynamic filter" in hopes of getting a better understanding of that mode (which is the one thing that makes Pro-MB different from all other multi-band compressors). What I got was page after page after page of identical copy-and-paste excerpts from a FabFilter press release.
2014/01/26 13:30:24
dubdisciple
Too many reviewers, especially when it comes to software are collectors who know what's best for them if they want to keep getting free schwag. They simply don't want to bite the hand that feeds them. Maybe we should start a series of reviews on products we have used long term. The companies will hate t since it probably ads little to their bottomline but users still trying to decide will find it invaluable
2014/01/26 13:54:18
The Maillard Reaction
I think that it takes me a long time to form an opinion about the stuff that I buy. It is one reason I buy good stuff and try to live with it. For my circumstance, it is not rewarding to demo or audition stuff. The short time that those opportunities provide, and the inability to apply the tools to a wide range of application makes demoing seem insufficient for me to form an opinion that I think is useful.
 
Since you are speaking about FabFilter; I have a bunch of their stuff and I have been using it on every track and bus since last June so that I can work cross DAW and maintain some consistency with the effects. Fab Filter stuff doesn't seem, to me, to be any more or less special than any of the simple stuff that I have used. I'm still getting used to Pro-L (the limiter) and I don't think I actually like it compared to some of the other limiters I have. I had forgotten that I own Pro-DS because it doesn't seem as effective as Waves' ancient De-Esser. (I rarely use De-Essers but sometimes I force the wrong mic into a situation just to learn more about the mic). The Pro-C Compressor seems OK, it seems like it has a lot of visual feedback features but I don't think the visuals illustrate what I hear very effectively so I have been closing my eyes and using it *by ear* more than I thought I would when I first considered all the cool visuals. The Pro-Q EQ seems like an EQ. Timeless seems very, very special, but I rarely use delay effects so it will take me years to get enought time on Timeless. I have been using them since last June on every track I have worked with. Maybe they will grow on me. :-) I may buy Pro-MB some day but I think that I tend to use microphone and pre amp selection to accomplish the same goal.
 
Anyways, tools is tools, parts is parts, time is time, etc. etc.
 
all the best,
mike
2014/01/26 13:59:21
bapu
mike_mccue
Anyways, tools is tools, parts is parts, time is time, etc. etc.

Timeless quote from The McQ.
2014/01/26 14:00:04
bapu
One mans tool is another mans part?
 
2014/01/26 14:00:19
bapu
Only time will tell. etc.
 
2014/01/26 14:02:50
bitflipper
"Our tools don't adapt to our demands. I've been having this argument with my guitar for about fifty years."
- Clint Swank
2014/01/26 14:21:33
clintmartin
How many of the FF plugins were you able to get? I have four. Q,C,L and Saturn. I'm starting to like Pro-L more now that I've had time to adjust it to my liking. I do believe the gui and metering are what sets FF apart. Not sound quality. 
2014/01/26 14:33:20
bitflipper
Looking forward to that Maserati link, olpal. 
 
I'd long thought of multibands as remedial devices, something you use to mitigate mistakes. 
 
I've since broadened my view and now also see them as creative tools and mixing aids. I started down that path with Meldaproduction's MDynamicEQ, when I discovered that it could be sidechained. That led to subtle ducking effects that work wonders for bringing an element out in a busy mix without actually turning it up, and it's become a favorite technique. (Pro-MB, despite its name, is, in its default mode, actually a dynamic equalizer very much like MDynamicEQ.)
 
A multiband can serve more than one function, even at the same time. On the vocal bus I mentioned earlier, Pro-MB replaced two compressors (one for de-essing, the other for leveling) and an equalizer and tamed an annoying but intermittent 1KHz resonance. Four birds with one plugin. As a bonus, it also reduced overall CPU usage, which my aged computer thanked me for.
 
I haven't even gotten around to creative effects yet. Even though stuttering gates and pumping bass are not my style, I've been thinking that Pro-MB should be able to do that stuff easily. And that maybe, just maybe, they could have some uses even in my conservative genres.
 
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