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  • Bitwig Studio now available... (p.2)
2014/01/25 08:46:57
Glyn Barnes
cclarry

It offers ALL the things that a DAW offers....just like SampleTank 3 NOW offers some the things that Kontakt has offered for years!!!  What's not to like?



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2014/01/25 09:25:27
cclarry
Glyn Barnes
cclarry

It offers ALL the things that a DAW offers....just like SampleTank 3 NOW offers some the things that Kontakt has offered for years!!!  What's not to like?



Fixed



MY bad...thanks Glyn!!!
2014/01/25 10:33:53
mumpcake
SongCraft
BitWig? Sounds like a brand for a toupee or something like that. Other than having a dark shade, the UI and workflow looks similar to Ableton Live.

It looks a lot more similar to a certain Cakewalk product that's been discontinued for  7 years or so.
2014/01/25 17:11:04
SongCraft
mumpcake
SongCraft
BitWig? Sounds like a brand for a toupee or something like that. Other than having a dark shade, the UI and workflow looks similar to Ableton Live.

It looks a lot more similar to a certain Cakewalk product that's been discontinued for  7 years or so.




Yes. I saw your comment earlier before I posted ;-) . Just out of curiosity it will be interesting to see how the Wig holds up, it might do okay but the price isn't entry level.. I guess a demo should be available soon after release and then I guess I might read reviews and feedback later.
 
 
2014/01/25 19:58:55
John
Boy, you guys are a tough sale.  But I agree with you. 
2014/01/26 03:02:35
Sycraft
John
Boy, you guys are a tough sale.  But I agree with you. 



Hey, if someone wants me to buy a $400 toy, I need to be convinced that it is worth $400. At that price, you have a lot of DAW options: You can get Sonar Studio, Vegas Pro Edit, Fl Studio Signature, Studio One Professional, Reaper, Reason, and so on for the same or less money. You are also just $50-100 of being in range of Sonar Producer, Cubase, Abelton Live Standard, Digital Performer, and so on.
 
So at the price they've chosen, there's a lot of competition. It isn't like they are cheap enough to have an advantage over most of the competition, nor cheap enough to be a "just get it because why not" kind of thing. They have to sell it.
 
Also, here at least, they are dealing with people who already have a DAW, maybe more than one. I personally own Sonar and Vegas. So they have to convince us that it does something the toys we already have don't. I have to see it offer me something that neither Sonar nor Vegas does, and that something needs to be worth $400.
 
And the issue with what they are advertising is that companies love to show of what makes them cool, different. Look at Cakewalk's page on Sonar: Lots of pictures n' words on Prochannel, ARA, the included instruments, and so on. They want to draw you in with the cool stuff you get, particularly the stuff you can't have elsewhere. So that all the Bitwig guys talk about and show is basic DAW stuff, well it probably means that's ALL there is. It isn't real likely they have something real cool, but they just forgot to advertise it.
2014/01/28 22:35:31
Fog
ampfixer
Somebody tell them they're going in the wrong direction.

 
I did for a number of reasons... (no pun)
 
1.. they'd made me wait ages for something.. 2+ years as I'd rather not give my money to ableton.
2.. it's v1.. it's a gamble.. get the people to buy into it first.. studio one sorta did that
3.. it's priced wrongly for v1 in this current market
 
 
it shares more with ableton than it does with p5.. you can't compare the 2.
 
wanna see how they deal with support etc..
2014/01/29 00:27:24
Ruben
P5 was the first thing I thought of when I saw the beta demos of Bitwig, but in much of their promotional propoganda they mention Ableton, so they must feel that Ableton's market is where their potential users are. Also, all of the demo videos I saw focused on one type of musical style (which just reinforced the "P5" stigma) which makes Bitwig a big "meh" for me.
2014/01/29 07:52:01
mmorgan
IIRC the majority of the development team are from Ableton. When they originally announced a great many of the features they were touting were not in Ableton and people had been screaming for them for years (such as support for two monitors).
 
I don't plan on a purchase but I fail to see how competition can be a negative...it can only spur innovation (when warranted) in my opinion.
 
Regards,
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