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2013/12/31 15:38:25
ChuckC
Beepster- I hear that dude.  I slept 2 hours last night, I just tried to take a nap as I was exhausted and have plans tonight, I slept 45 minutes then tossed and turned for another half hour and got up and said the hell with it.  My wheel are spinnin' so fast the freakin' hub caps are coming off.   I hate it sometimes.
 
Craig- Yeah DVR's can be awesome for that.
2013/12/31 15:52:57
bapu
Beepster
Lately I've been watching a lot of frogs and salamanders doing the nasty.

Aha I new you were lurking the FSF.
2013/12/31 16:31:00
Beepster
ChuckC
Beepster- I hear that dude.  I slept 2 hours last night, I just tried to take a nap as I was exhausted and have plans tonight, I slept 45 minutes then tossed and turned for another half hour and got up and said the hell with it.  My wheel are spinnin' so fast the freakin' hub caps are coming off.   I hate it sometimes.




Drugs are bad and all but sleep deprivation can be deadly (almost killed me). Maybe ask your doc for a script to take the edge off. I rarely partake in such things but when the crazy train starts going of the rail 1/2-1 mg of diazepan (which is essentially nothing) calms the ruckus enough so I can nod off. Hate to do it but I didn't get a proper night's sleep for almost a decade and it started screwing up my heart (amongst a myriad of other things). It was more than unpleasant and the doctors yelled at me because I had refused any type of drugs for so long. That was a little weird... lol.
 
bapu
 
Aha I new you were lurking the FSF.




Well... I am NOW! ;-)
2013/12/31 19:30:28
spacealf
They use to have normal sound and hi-fi sound on VCRs. They need that on everything nowdays. I hate crowd cheering on a game show (because probably it is just sound effects sometimes the audience), and movies, I do not want it to sound real as in real life almost, because it is a movie, not my life. I am very tired of all that crap and Commercials are not softer but still louder way louder, and it is all just crap to me.
 
Well, I guess that is it for now.
 
2013/12/31 21:13:22
slartabartfast
So video soundtracks are recorded/mixed in such a way that it is difficult to distinguish dialogue, and you are deafened by the action scenes? True. This was never a problem in 1940's movies, where everything was done on a sound stage, and most of the "atmospherics" were dubbed in later. Or sometimes the dialogue was dubbed in later to patch up rough spots. The theaters did not have bone crunching subwoofers under the seats, and moviegoers actually gave a damn about what lines the actors were speaking. The deep resonant whispers that used to fill the theaters in the heyday of the talkies required a commitment to making the dialogue audible, at the price of a pretty unrealistic effect.  Recovering dialogue from location shooting on noisy streets, is like trying to get the scratches off vinyl.
 
I am struck by the fact that many of our "action" movies contain only a couple of thousand words of dialogue interspersed with huge amounts of audio mayhem, and that musical sound tracks are often mixed so loud relative to speech that the dialogue is unintelligible. Not so much modern craft (the old techniques are not lost in the mists of time) as modern taste.
2014/01/01 00:35:21
ampfixer
If huge dynamic range is an issue then I'd suggest a TV with a built in compressor. My sony has one and it's labelled "steady sound" in the menu. It helps but doesn't kill the problem.
2014/01/01 02:17:29
dubdisciple
One of my biggest sources of tension with clients is the loudness thing.  They sometimes get mad if their ad is not as loud as competitors.  They accuse me of making their ad "too quiet" and when itry to explain that their ad is actually at the upper end of the guidelines, they tune it out as jargon.
2014/01/01 02:17:31
dubdisciple
One of my biggest sources of tension with clients is the loudness thing.  They sometimes get mad if their ad is not as loud as competitors.  They accuse me of making their ad "too quiet" and when itry to explain that their ad is actually at the upper end of the guidelines, they tune it out as jargon.
2014/01/01 07:49:04
paulo
ChuckC
Paulo-  haha sorry I didn't mean to ignore you!  I agree with you and all of the other statements above.  Maybe if people voiced their displeasure more then someone might listen?  yeah... probably not but still.   As for the Calm act...  It hasn't seemed to make much difference to me here in Florida.




He, he ......no worries. I think the general public has much more power than they realise sometimes, if only they would stick together and see things through. Imagine if every pay tv customer cancelled their TV subscriptions and let it be known that they would not be renewed until they stopped this practice. Wouldn't take too long for it to be sorted then, but sadly people will never do it.
2014/01/01 08:33:32
jbow
I have a Toshiba 52" something or other TV and I am pretty sure it has something built in to its sound that you can enable that will keep the volume steady on everything. I don't remember exactly because I run the sound through something else. I know what you mean though. I get aggravated during the holidays when the daughters are over and they never sit close and talk, it is always across the room and they are "all mouth and no ears". So I ease the volume up. Pretty soon... I am asked to turn it down because of some commercial or loud part in a show or movie. I should check out the TV settings for times like these. I too have tinnitus and can hear up to 8khz. I'm not sure how much actual hearing loss I have but my wife can also hear much better than me... She is always saying do you hear that and I respond with, "what, I don't hear anything". I do have a highly developed sense of smell however.
edit> The Toshiba Regza line, at least mine and the one I looked online just now have a built in soundbar with something called "Stablesound" Sound Limiter.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/uk.tech.digital-tv/288g-e-sUfY
 
http://gizmodo.com/385566/dolby-volume-solving-the-problem-of-annoyingly-loud-tv-content
 
I would also NEVER buy a car from someone who yells at me on the TV then ends with, "Get 'er done". I guess it must appeal to someone.
 
Don't worry though. It is 2014 now, it is the future and everything will be better.
 
J
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