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  • Waves Scheps 73 + WLM Plus (p.3)
2014/01/08 19:48:20
ltb
Eddie TX
After trying it out on several sources including drums and guitars, I have to say that Waves has the best 1073 emu I've heard outside Nebula.  To me, it edged out UAD and put the old VEQ3 to shame.  HOWEVER, I'm spoiled by the Nebula sound, so unless I get tired of using that, I'll keep my AlexB emulations in my projects (his API 550A is my current go-to for this style of EQ).  I still may pick up the Scheps when it inevitably goes on sale.
 
I still use RS56 a lot, and it seems Waves have matched its quality and ease-of-use with this new one.  Nice job, Waves.
 
Cheers,
Eddie


I agree about the old V-series, never cared for it myself, no comparison to this.
I still use Alex B's CLC on channels & busses but that's about it. It's still my favorite console emu out there.
No more Neb. eq's though, I need at least 100 instances for a 20 track project. Just too much for my system with all the other vi's & plugins being used.
 
2014/01/09 09:45:58
awebster
I spent some time demoing this on the master buss and on channels. I really wanted to like it, the GUI is really nice, but sorry, PSP ClassicQ kills it, and their RetroQ kills RS56. I put the PSP EQs on par with Nebula.
2014/01/09 09:59:21
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
bapu
ampfixer
The J37 is great, you won't be disapointed.


Well, I have Kramer Tape (included in Mercury), Magnetic I & II, UAD Studer, Slate VTM, Ferric TDS and probably a few more I cannot think of right now.
 
What (besides vanity and namesake history) does the J37 do that any of these others don't?
 



If you love it as much as it'll love you J37 will create a mix tape for you ;-) Like back in the old days when smoking was cool and cars were still running on petrol ...
 
 
2014/01/09 10:50:49
bapu
I updated yesterday and I do like the Scheps. Have not looked at the new MLM yet.
2014/01/09 10:51:46
bapu
awebster
I spent some time demoing this on the master buss and on channels. I really wanted to like it, the GUI is really nice, but sorry, PSP ClassicQ kills it, and their RetroQ kills RS56. I put the PSP EQs on par with Nebula.

Here, drink some of the kool-aid. Now tell us what you think.
2014/01/09 11:13:42
awebster
bapu
awebster
I spent some time demoing this on the master buss and on channels. I really wanted to like it, the GUI is really nice, but sorry, PSP ClassicQ kills it, and their RetroQ kills RS56. I put the PSP EQs on par with Nebula.

Here, drink some of the kool-aid. Now tell us what you think.


Hmmmm the kool-aid reallly brings out the analog sound in Waves now.
2014/01/09 11:20:34
ltb
bapu
I updated yesterday and I do like the Scheps. Have not looked at the new MLM yet.


They added a True Peak Limiter to WLM.
Play an entire mix through, check the trim control to see how far off you are from your target.
Click the trim button & will automatically adjust the track to the target.

I mix my source tracks to -23 LUFS / -8, -10 dbTP so it never limits, just adjusts the track to the target about 1db +/-
2014/01/09 12:33:57
ampfixer
bapu
ampfixer
The J37 is great, you won't be disapointed.


Well, I have Kramer Tape (included in Mercury), Magnetic I & II, UAD Studer, Slate VTM, Ferric TDS and probably a few more I cannot think of right now.
 
What (besides vanity and namesake history) does the J37 do that any of these others don't?
 




My favorite J37 feature is the delay they added. It's very cool and allows frequency dependent delays. I put it on acoustic guitar and it just comes alive. I've really just scratched the surface with J37 and I've never tried all those you list. My R&D budget is a tad small for the really fancy stuff.
2014/01/09 16:39:48
Eddie TX
awebster
I spent some time demoing this on the master buss and on channels. I really wanted to like it, the GUI is really nice, but sorry, PSP ClassicQ kills it, and their RetroQ kills RS56. I put the PSP EQs on par with Nebula.


It seems you prefer a clean digital EQ sound, which is fine, but IMHO the PSP EQs do not have the character of more recent EQs like the latest Waves models you mention.  To me, the Scheps and RS56 really do sound like hardware.  I find the PSPs to be similar to cleaner EQs such as those from Nomad Factory -- to my ears, the ClassicQ sounds a lot like Nomad's 1081 emulation in their British bundle, for example.  Which, again, isn't a bad thing.  Just a different sound.  (I'm a fan of both PSP and Nomad, BTW.)
 
I must say, after using the Scheps on additional sources such as vocals, I'm liking it more and more.  Will keep this on my buy list, but I'm anxious to see how Slate does with his forthcoming model.  Good times, good times.
 
Cheers,
Eddie
 
2014/01/09 19:46:33
awebster
Eddie TX
awebster
I spent some time demoing this on the master buss and on channels. I really wanted to like it, the GUI is really nice, but sorry, PSP ClassicQ kills it, and their RetroQ kills RS56. I put the PSP EQs on par with Nebula.


It seems you prefer a clean digital EQ sound, which is fine, but IMHO the PSP EQs do not have the character of more recent EQs like the latest Waves models you mention.  To me, the Scheps and RS56 really do sound like hardware.  I find the PSPs to be similar to cleaner EQs such as those from Nomad Factory -- to my ears, the ClassicQ sounds a lot like Nomad's 1081 emulation in their British bundle, for example.  Which, again, isn't a bad thing.  Just a different sound.  (I'm a fan of both PSP and Nomad, BTW.)
 
I must say, after using the Scheps on additional sources such as vocals, I'm liking it more and more.  Will keep this on my buy list, but I'm anxious to see how Slate does with his forthcoming model.  Good times, good times.
 
Cheers,
Eddie
 


That's odd, because I'm hearing the opposite here. I think there's way more mojo and character in the PSP EQs and I think the Waves does have it, just doesn't sound 'real' as in like hardware. I think the Scheps sounds a lot thinner than ClassicQ, especially when boosting the high end, and the lows break up easier, and aren't as solid either.
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