Yeah, I too don't understand the problem. Cripes... I'm STILL on Manchester but working uninterrrupted (by SONAR shenanigans at least).
 
I'm prone to freaking out in general but I'm just not seeing how this can adversely effect my music production (at least in the foreseeable future) from what I've already been doing. I long ago accepted the fact that SONAR cannot do certain things so I figured out other options. Everything in SONAR that I do use seems to work reasonably well and I enjoy the environment for what I do (which is mostly tracking and mixing these days). Unless I've been misinformed I will be able to use SONAR (and all the updates I have not yet installed) in perpetuity. The ONLY question about that which remains is whether we will receive a permanent reg code for our product(s) when/if the servers go down... which has continuously said will be the case if it comes to that... but the servers are obviously still up sooo.
 
Anyhoo... maybe as I age my rage synapses have eroded to the point of "meh" but logically I don't see how this stops anyone from working with SONAR. If it DID though I would certainly find my younger self and his inner angst to launch the "old man yells at cloud" equivalent of a flaming garbage can through a Starbucks window (because does Gibson really have windows...?)
 
alright... I may have gotten a little sarcastic there but you get my gist...

#snarkasstick

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sharke

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sharke

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So are focused enough today to get one of those 100+ track projects completed so we can hear it?

No amount of focus will turn Sonar into a fully working DAW unfortunately.

There's always Reaper, Studio One, Samplitude etc. etc. etc.

That won't help me finish my unfinished Sonar projects. Although I'm guessing you knew that.

It will if you want it to.

The trouble with finishing a project is finding someone who will listen to it.

DeeringAmps
Sounds like you need to get in on Azslow3's beta testing team; make the move to Reaper.
I must add though; as slow as I am at finishing projects, its not SONAR's fault.
 
T

I have Reaper and Bitwig and they are my DAW's for new projects. My current Sonar projects are just too large and complicated in terms of tracks, sound design, fx chains, routing and automation to be transferred without weeks of painstaking work. 

Beepster
Yeah, I too don't understand the problem. Cripes... I'm STILL on Manchester but working uninterrrupted (by SONAR shenanigans at least).
 
I'm prone to freaking out in general but I'm just not seeing how this can adversely effect my music production (at least in the foreseeable future) from what I've already been doing. I long ago accepted the fact that SONAR cannot do certain things so I figured out other options. Everything in SONAR that I do use seems to work reasonably well and I enjoy the environment for what I do (which is mostly tracking and mixing these days). Unless I've been misinformed I will be able to use SONAR (and all the updates I have not yet installed) in perpetuity. The ONLY question about that which remains is whether we will receive a permanent reg code for our product(s) when/if the servers go down... which has continuously said will be the case if it comes to that... but the servers are obviously still up sooo.
 
Anyhoo... maybe as I age my rage synapses have eroded to the point of "meh" but logically I don't see how this stops anyone from working with SONAR. If it DID though I would certainly find my younger self and his inner angst to launch the "old man yells at cloud" equivalent of a flaming garbage can through a Starbucks window (because does Gibson really have windows...?)
 
alright... I may have gotten a little sarcastic there but you get my gist...

Imagine a project in which plugins reset all of their settings not only when the project loads, but also while you work on the project. You can see screencasts of examples of some of this crap happening here. 
 
And that's not all of it. I also have hidden tracks unhiding themselves every now and then (I have to go back through 150+ tracks and re-hide about 50 of them), MIDI tracks legitimately disappearing into thin air, automation envelopes disappearing into thin air, certain tracks which won't show themselves in the console no matter what I do, turning on archived synths only to find that the patch I had programmed has been screwed up, clips that snap "by" instead of snapping "to" even though Snap To is selected (and no snap offset is set for the clip), automation that goes out of sync with the trap when loop points are set, and a whole host of other oddities that don't happen to me in new or relatively small Sonar projects. It's a huge mess and a nightmare to work with (although I am making very slow progress lol). I've come to truly hate the program for its bugs. 

tom1
The trouble with finishing a project is finding someone who will listen to it.

LOL I don't even care about that! Just listening to it myself will be reward enough. 

Are you using "Aux tracks" in the problem projects?
I haven't had the kind of issues you describe (but I don't have anything approaching 100+ tracks),
but I do have a few projects with "issues".
It seems to trace back to using Aux tracks (for instance: to keep verb and delay organized)
in the VOCAL, GUITAR folders.
Just curious.
 
T

DeeringAmps
Are you using "Aux tracks" in the problem projects?
I haven't had the kind of issues you describe (but I don't have anything approaching 100+ tracks),
but I do have a few projects with "issues".
It seems to trace back to using Aux tracks (for instance: to keep verb and delay organized)
in the VOCAL, GUITAR folders.
Just curious.
 
T

 
Actually I only have one aux track in this project, but the problems started before it was introduced (and indeed these problems have been reported many times by others and predate aux tracks). I believe Sonar has serious MIDI issues, in that MIDI messages end up in places they're not supposed to, and I've seen this happen when doing seemingly innocuous things like starting and stopping the transport, as well as soloing and muting tracks. A few times I've been in situations in which hitting mute or solo on a track would actually trigger a drum hit on a completely unrelated drum synth track. It's weird as hell and almost impossible to pin down! And believe me I've tried - I've spent dozens upon dozens of hours, entire evenings, trying to formulate recipes and work out exactly what's happening. 
 
I have seen problems with aux tracks as well though.