2013/12/08 17:59:22
craigb
SteveStrummerUK
 
But can you name the band and song from whence A Flock Of Seagulls took their name?
 



I would, but there are hands around my neck...
2013/12/08 18:00:14
Rain
craigb
 
(And that I have, at least, 800 artists that probably none of you have ever heard of? )




So you too come from a cultural cul-de-sac similar to French Canada? ;)
2013/12/08 18:01:22
SteveStrummerUK
craigb
SteveStrummerUK
 
But can you name the band and song from whence A Flock Of Seagulls took their name?
 



I would, but there are hands around my neck...




 
Very good
 
And it's such a good song, I'd already lined up the clip...
 

 
Yay!!
2013/12/08 18:42:10
craigb
Rain
craigb
 
(And that I have, at least, 800 artists that probably none of you have ever heard of? )




So you too come from a cultural cul-de-sac similar to French Canada? ;)



A virtual one.  It's called Ektoplasm.  A website dedicated to psy-trance where I get legal links to full albums emailed to me all the time.  Heh.
2013/12/08 18:53:20
backwoods
Yes, albums are a thing of the past. 
 
Even if you look at most (not all) great albums from the past more than half the tracks on each are crap. It's called filler. People remember things weirdly. 
 
Some just like the whole ceremony of playing and album. Like some people enjoy the ceremony of high tea or whatever. A nice room, lets light the joss sticks and sit on bean bags and enjoy this album from the 60's. No thanks. 
 
Personally I like to move around alot when I listen to music or am playing guitar- same as Beethoven I believe 
2013/12/08 19:02:47
craigb
He used a toilet on the seas?
 
A toe-tapper to be sure.
2013/12/08 20:29:56
SongCraft
Rain
SongCraft
@ Rain, I'd hate to see a yet another really good topic get derailed and locked. Therefore in this case I don't report, I much rather ignore  
 
RE: Albums a Thing of the Past? 
The other sad thing about the music scene is that most of the best 'newly released' music is hard to find; gets buried too deep beneath the hype. The majors continue to monopolize, manipulate public perception and a lot of kids lap it up. I mean duh, just because it's a cute face on the front page of a popular teen magazine means the music is great? {ahem} {diarrhea} {vomit} And it's not just Pop music to single out and complain about, other genres nowadays from Hip-Hop to Rock and Metal has it's good, not so good and awfully freaking horrible. 
 
I love all styles of music from 10,000.BC (sticks and rocks), to Classical, to all out new genres. Music purchasing is a task my wife does (for both of us) whilst I support really good independent bands, the gems buried deep beneath the hype.
 




Thanks, then. :)
 
Sounds a bit like here, where my wife actually suffers through the process of trying to weed out the bad stuff and maybe come up with a few things which are really worth listening. Me I don't have her patience. lol
 
I'm actually just getting back to more mainstream rock after years of being into dark electro/industrial/noise and all that scene. I have hundreds of obscure records by hundreds of small obscure "bands" which I doubt all that many folks around here have heard.
 
I then spent a phase where I immersed myself into traditional Chinese and Japanese music. For over a year, that's practically all I listened to besides classical music.
 
We come here to interact with people, try to find things we have in common. At some point, I think it's a good thing to mingle in. I have much better chances to find other Black Sabbath fans to discuss with than I'm likely to find Feindflug or Unter Null fans. And if someone shows up and also know lots of those and tons of others, like my old pal Craig, all the better. 
 
Anyway, these days, I'm into classic rock. I feel I've earned a right to go back to my simplistic roots. If I say that Highway to Hell is one frickin' awesome song to play or that I like KISS, it's not because I don't know better. I don't see a point in coming here and dropping a bunch of band names that no one else is likely to know, unless it's what we're talking about.
 
Otherwise, if alienating ourselves was the point, I'd write in french and only write about music from Quebec and France. Et ça serait vachement chiant pour vous, mes potes! :P




My core influences are much like yours, bands such; Kiss, Black Sabbath, Queen and such. Those were great years, whereas most albums by new bands, new releases nowadays are far and few between. (see previous post)--> Guess that's another reason why singles are more POPular (there's that word again) LOL!! 
 
In my earlier years since around 1970-1989 all my bands performed and recorded "live" and the music I performed back then was Hard Rock with a fusion of other styles - influences by bands such as; Boston and I enjoyed playing blues (great for warming up, jamming with a band)
 
Rain: Et ça serait vachement chiant pour vous, mes potes! :P
 
Sorry Captain, the translator is malfunctioning and Scotty can't get the weapons and warp drive back online.  Nous sommes sous attaque et le gars parle en cantonais avec un accent écossais {uh oh} :P 
 
Seriously, honestly, the other reason why I have not participated much on forums is due to health issues (I rather not talk about) and this past 6 months has been tough! For decades my focus has always been on the song along with performances (first priority) and capturing that essence because that's what matters most - The final polish (sound) can be done later. I'll worry about getting musicians or pitching to labels later. I still have many songs in the works, but I plan to return to the DAWg by Feb/March 2014. 
 
 
2013/12/09 00:03:10
Rain
SongCraft
Rain
SongCraft
@ Rain, I'd hate to see a yet another really good topic get derailed and locked. Therefore in this case I don't report, I much rather ignore  
 
RE: Albums a Thing of the Past? 
The other sad thing about the music scene is that most of the best 'newly released' music is hard to find; gets buried too deep beneath the hype. The majors continue to monopolize, manipulate public perception and a lot of kids lap it up. I mean duh, just because it's a cute face on the front page of a popular teen magazine means the music is great? {ahem} {diarrhea} {vomit} And it's not just Pop music to single out and complain about, other genres nowadays from Hip-Hop to Rock and Metal has it's good, not so good and awfully freaking horrible. 
 
I love all styles of music from 10,000.BC (sticks and rocks), to Classical, to all out new genres. Music purchasing is a task my wife does (for both of us) whilst I support really good independent bands, the gems buried deep beneath the hype.
 




Thanks, then. :)
 
Sounds a bit like here, where my wife actually suffers through the process of trying to weed out the bad stuff and maybe come up with a few things which are really worth listening. Me I don't have her patience. lol
 
I'm actually just getting back to more mainstream rock after years of being into dark electro/industrial/noise and all that scene. I have hundreds of obscure records by hundreds of small obscure "bands" which I doubt all that many folks around here have heard.
 
I then spent a phase where I immersed myself into traditional Chinese and Japanese music. For over a year, that's practically all I listened to besides classical music.
 
We come here to interact with people, try to find things we have in common. At some point, I think it's a good thing to mingle in. I have much better chances to find other Black Sabbath fans to discuss with than I'm likely to find Feindflug or Unter Null fans. And if someone shows up and also know lots of those and tons of others, like my old pal Craig, all the better. 
 
Anyway, these days, I'm into classic rock. I feel I've earned a right to go back to my simplistic roots. If I say that Highway to Hell is one frickin' awesome song to play or that I like KISS, it's not because I don't know better. I don't see a point in coming here and dropping a bunch of band names that no one else is likely to know, unless it's what we're talking about.
 
Otherwise, if alienating ourselves was the point, I'd write in french and only write about music from Quebec and France. Et ça serait vachement chiant pour vous, mes potes! :P




My core influences are much like yours, bands such; Kiss, Black Sabbath, Queen and such. Those were great years, whereas most albums by new bands, new releases nowadays are far and few between. (see previous post)--> Guess that's another reason why singles are more POPular (there's that word again) LOL!! 
 
In my earlier years since around 1970-1989 all my bands performed and recorded "live" and the music I performed back then was Hard Rock with a fusion of other styles - influences by bands such as; Boston and I enjoyed playing blues (great for warming up, jamming with a band)
 
Rain: Et ça serait vachement chiant pour vous, mes potes! :P
 
Sorry Captain, the translator is malfunctioning and Scotty can't get the weapons and warp drive back online.  Nous sommes sous attaque et le gars parle en cantonais avec un accent écossais {uh oh} :P 
 
Seriously, honestly, the other reason why I have not participated much on forums is due to health issues (I rather not talk about) and this past 6 months has been tough! For decades my focus has always been on the song along with performances (first priority) and capturing that essence because that's what matters most - The final polish (sound) can be done later. I'll worry about getting musicians or pitching to labels later. I still have many songs in the works, but I plan to return to the DAWg by Feb/March 2014. 
 
 




:) 
 
Hope you feel better, Greg.
2013/12/09 04:31:31
Rain
You know, I've been thinking about this whole argument, and maybe it's more than just albums that are a thing of the past.
 
Back in the days, when information was scarce and albums often had to be custom ordered and all, one could think that there was a certain merit in stepping off the beaten path and finding music that did not have a big record company to promote it.
 
I remember ordering albums by bands we knew nothing about from a catalog - w/o even a picture or anything. You didn't get to preview those. And you often had to pay more, because that stuff was imported. All we knew is that they'd toured with a band we knew, or that they were listed in the liner notes of a record or something. There was a lot of guess work.
 
You had to do your homework if you wanted to get an idea of what was out there. You had to have that curiosity. And I guess it meant something.
 
But nowadays, everything is just a click away. Knowing stuff don't mean a thing.
 
Whether it's Lady Gaga or Van der Graaf Generator - one may get you tons more hits in a Google search, but the end result is the same. Practically everything has been logged somewhere and is accessible from virtually anywhere by anyone.
 
In fact, a quick iTunes search and I found a bunch of Van der Graaf albums and Amon Duul and tons of those. So anyone can just grab them off of iTunes or Amazon or then stream them on Grooveshark on YouTube.
 
As a matter of fact, all those bands have been around for so long that they're pretty much established. Maybe they haven't grown in popularity, but they're as readily available as the next Beyonce single. And they've been around for so long that anyone who's into prog rock knows about them. They're the established acts, the classics every fan know about.
 
Still can't get any Tool from the iTune store though.
Now, that requires some homework. :P
 
2013/12/09 09:48:33
dubdisciple
Wow..looking at this thread makes me glad I chose to simply bow out of a recent discussion on here. Even when people agree to disagree you will find several posts of attempts to get in a last word lol. I think I have said this before but music is right up there with religion, politics and guns when it comes to creating highly subjective opinions presented as and believed by the person stating such to be facts. Most, right or wrong, you can rehash your statements hundreds of ways but once it becomes you vs them on a topic, you will simply take turns rehashing. We all do it now and then. The key is to come to a dead stop when it happens and try to get back on topic.
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