2013/12/09 16:14:52
Rain
dubdisciple
Um..i was actually referring to the silliness between me and spacey. and by silliness, I mean my misguided decision to respond to his first post.  I stopped reading the mosh vs everybody war and just check in to see if anything about the topic pops back up. sorry for the confusion. 




Oops. Then so am I. :)
2013/12/09 16:23:50
SteveStrummerUK
Rain
 
I don't like arguments ....


 
 
 
 
Moshpit will love this reference
 
 
 
2013/12/09 17:25:29
jamesg1213
I'm grateful to this thread for getting me away from 'The Royal Variety Performance' . Instead I went on a little UToob trip;
 
Starting with ; Herd of Instinct
Calling at 'O' Rang
Via Talk Talk
Stopping at Beth Gibbons
Ending up with ; a 1974 Helen Mirren interview.
 

 
2013/12/09 19:35:36
spacey
I don't think arguing nor flawed reasoning supporting the idea that vinyl albums are dead
matters to all the people making millions selling them....in the US.
 
If one is really interested in knowing the facts rather than...whatever this thread is...it's very easy to search album sales.
 
With an obvious large growing market and sales increases for the last seven years I don't think anything stated in this thread is going to change that.
 
 
 
 
 
2013/12/09 20:09:26
Rain
spacey
I don't think arguing nor flawed reasoning supporting the idea that vinyl albums are dead
matters to all the people making millions selling them....in the US.
 
If one is really interested in knowing the facts rather than...whatever this thread is...it's very easy to search album sales.
 
With an obvious large growing market and sales increases for the last seven years I don't think anything stated in this thread is going to change that.
 




I don't know when or where this became a thread about vinyl. (?)
 
It was about full length albums vs singles. See article:
 
http://variety.com/2013/b...rk-anymore-1200824933/
 
That article which I posted in the OP was a reflexion on the poor sales of certain albums in view of the artist's visibility and status. The relevant numbers are provided in the article.
 
And album sales are indeed down. Overall Album Sales Drop 6.1% according to the following: 
 
http://www.billboard.com/...his-year-overall-album
 
I don't believe anyone here has stated that no one will ever issue another full length album or that the format is henceforth officially dead. Simply that it may no longer be the standard it once was.
 
This thread was intended to start a discussion and a collective reflexion on a possible paradigm shift. If people are looking for bare facts and data and have issues with people interacting, extrapolating, or considering possibilities, they shouldn't waste their time in a discussion forum where people exchange ideas. Especially not in the CH, of all places.
2013/12/09 21:17:07
spacey
Doesn't matter if it's CD, vinyl....album sales are up. Music sales are up.
 
The thread as had posts addressing albums in both digital and vinyl. Sales figures
are there for both to support it isn't dead.
 
Nobody stated it was dead....your thread title questions if "albums" are dead.
Now you have my answer....no albums aren't dead.
2013/12/10 02:30:44
Rain
spacey
Doesn't matter if it's CD, vinyl....



Well, if that's what you MEANT, that's what you needed to say instead of "I don't think arguing nor flawed reasoning supporting the idea that vinyl albums are dead matters to all the people making millions selling them....in the US."
 
spacey
...album sales are up. Music sales are up.

 
How about numbers to back up the assertion? According to Billboard magazine it isn't. Overall Album Sales Drop 6.1%. Overall. Again see the link I posted in my previous reply.
 
And if you really want to be on topic and understand the context of the discussion, see the original article with the sales numbers.
 
spacey
The thread as had posts addressing albums in both digital and vinyl. Sales figures
are there for both to support it isn't dead.

 
I am very well aware of that as I posted sales figures - that you didn't bother to read but seem adamant on telling me they exist.
 
I also specifically told you in my previous post to you: I don't believe anyone here has stated that no one will ever issue another full length album or that the format is henceforth officially dead. Simply that it may no longer be the standard it once was.
 
I don't know if you're arguing with yourself or what...
 
spacey
 
Nobody stated it was dead....your thread title questions if "albums" are dead. Now you have my answer....no albums aren't dead.
 

 
Nobody said that indeed.
 
The thread title is a thread title. If one reads the actual post AND the article, he will understand what the title means - it is a direct reference to what the article states and questions that article. 
 
I'm not waiting for anyone here to confirm whether or not albums are officially dead.
 
But if that's you're contribution to that thread and there isn't more to it than a generic statement backed up by absolutely nothing, then all the better.
2013/12/10 02:33:52
backwoods
Geez Rain- get outside for a bit man- great graphics out there :) 
2013/12/10 02:42:50
Rain
You're probably right.
 
And I was going to try and let that thing die until I read Spacey's post - hoping it was just a confirmation that we'd misunderstood each other, once again. But it wasn't... :/
 
But I'm off now.
 
 
 
 
 
2013/12/10 07:35:36
spacey
post removed...figured it was just feeding a fire.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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