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  • Have a radioactive X-Mas: Fallout1, 2 and Tactics for free over on GOG (p.2)
2013/12/13 17:04:39
craigb
Fallout looks interesting so I'm downloading it (and all the "bonus" stuff) now.  Not sure when I'll get time to play it though!
2013/12/13 19:07:28
sharke
Games are way too realistic for me now...I preferred them when they were set in surreal little worlds of flying penguins and giant fruit.
2013/12/13 23:02:53
craigb
sharke
Games are way too realistic for me now...I preferred them when they were set in surreal little worlds of flying penguins and giant fruit.


Er...  Those weren't real???
2013/12/14 11:30:02
Beepster
craigb
Fallout looks interesting so I'm downloading it (and all the "bonus" stuff) now.  Not sure when I'll get time to play it though!




Being more of a FPS kind of dude it's a little slow moving for my tastes but the more I learn about how it all works I'm definitely getting into it. RPG's (I guess that's what this is... IDK) lose my interest after a while because they are SO burdensome with all the required knowledge but this one seems to be drawing me in more.
 
You definitely have to read the manual though. I started playing it without doing so and it blew. Then I read the basic functions section and it more interesting. Now I'm reading the finer details and I could see myself getting hooked. Like I said I'm glad it works on the laptop so it's not some big ordeal firing up the big rig. Sometimes I need a break from the non stop studying/writing, dealing with bureaucratic/personal nonsense or just plain feel like crap. Most of the time I just read news stuff and other forums but that's not very relaxing sometimes. Stuff like this just helps me zone out for a while and my brain can sort out more important stuff in a more subconscious level. After taking a "mindless game day" I generally feel more rested and all of a sudden have better solutions for nagging problems.
 
The brain is a funny thing.
 
sharke
Games are way too realistic for me now...I preferred them when they were set in surreal little worlds of flying penguins and giant fruit.



There are some pretty good flash game sites out there with things like that. There's even one dedicated to old Nintendo games that I LOVED but for some reason the games stopped loading for me. Probably something to do with Adobe flash screwing up or something.
2013/12/14 13:08:29
bitflipper
Long-time gamer here, but I haven't acquired a new one since 2004. What's the deal with STEAM? Is that some sort of cloud-based licensing thing?
2013/12/14 13:26:46
Beepster
bitflipper
Long-time gamer here, but I haven't acquired a new one since 2004. What's the deal with STEAM? Is that some sort of cloud-based licensing thing?




Yeah, something like that. You create an account and buy titles from them which then go into your products page where you can download them. Kind of like the Cake Store for games. For online games you may have to register with whatever site handles that end of things. I'm not too well versed in it though. I signed up to try out for Everquest Free because, like Fallout, I had been hearing about it for years. It was an enormous PITA (sign up and download took forever and I had to sign up with a second company to get access to teh servers) and the game was quite lame/takes forever to load/need to be online/etc.
 
I think the other titles they have probably aren't such a jerk around though. I'm sure you are aware of this but Cakewalk has actually started distributing some synths and stuff through them... which seems a little weird but whatever.
 
GOG was a hell of a lot more painless but considering it stands for Good Old Games I wouldn't expect to get the latest releases. I had been looking at maybe getting some of the post CoD2 titles from Steam but I may check to see if GOG has them instead now that I know the site works. Normally I'd order discs out of being a paranoid luddite but I'm starting to get the hang of this fancy computating light box stuff.
 
Kind of interesting in the GTA stuff too. Never played those but I see the first few are being bundled for super cheap in a lot of places.
2013/12/14 14:25:24
spacealf
STeam is a client that holds and enables one to rent games in the sense that you do not own the software and because of piracy you can only like rent the game even if buying the game in the store. The full game is probably not given on the DVDs with some of them being too large of a game (12Gb) and Steam holds the rest of the game to download, and the patches when they patch the games. A lot of producers of games now go through Steam (Valve to be exact) and if you even redo your computer and lose the games you can download them all that you have in your account from Steam. I am not using the Steam Cloud though because I prefer to have saved games on my computer and do not need Steam holding those to be cleared out of the cloud when I do not want them anymore.
Some people play games for achievements and to get them first but I just play a game for my own purposes. Plus if it is a multi-player game then there usually is a server for that with Steam to play multi-player.
 
Gone are the days when you bought a game with Secur-Rom or any copy protection and now you just rent the game and really do not own it, even if you bought it retail. A lot of people also do not like that and will not buy games anymore.
 
I re-installed (well at least try to install) some old games before all of that started happening, and some of them do work, and others I have on my XP computer so that will be that.
 
If I ever get any time to actually finish some games I have enough to last for quite awhile, and I do not play FPS games anyway. About the only game I played except for some sci-fi games like XCOM was Civilization in its various version forms over the years. I still have Civilization IV on my old computer and V according to some is just to far different and dumbed down to get into until the third expansion that just came out this year. Now Civilization IV did not go through Steam, you installed it like games of old, but V is done through Steam but at least they hold all the patches to games, but sometimes STeam can be wonky also according to some.
 
I only start up Steam when playing a game and instead of just one time, about once a week the player has to log into Steam or else the game will not play anymore, if playing single player in a game which all games have to be like verified and also the account to keep playing the game. That is why some people will not play those games anymore, and look for something else, but a lot of computer game producers are doing all the same thing, and Steam is better usually then others. Sim City new one the player has to be on-line to even play, and that seems to be fine with some players, and others like me will never buy the game ever.
 
If software goes that way, then it is only old software that I will use. Even keeping a backup of the game or software on the cloud may be fine, but to store my stuff on a cloud is nothing I am going to do.
 
Microsoft again, and others doing this stuff, and it is bad enough to think that now even today they think they own your computer, and other people are going to linux and that will be that. Enough is enough I guess.
 
But like I said I have old games still playable if worked through and some not, and DosBox for old XCOM games that still work on my XP computer and will work in Windows 7.
 
A lot of people never ripped off games maybe only some young people and others in foreign Countries that steal stuff (China wherever).
 
2013/12/14 14:31:45
spacealf
Oh, the link did work for me, and those games mentioned were free, but then I did not download them and I may or may not yet. Only so much room on my computer and well I can play bad guitar or bad keyboard synth and even games are not all that great sometimes and FPS or anything like that I will not play. I am not a twitcher on the computer.

 
2013/12/14 14:39:44
Beepster
Oh, yeah. I guess that might be something that may turn people off. I think you can just toss these in your cart, do the checkout then dl them whenever you want if you do want them on your system right now.
 
And I'll tell ya this game moves a lot faster after reading the manual. lol
 
Started from scratch now that I know what's going on. I even have some bad ass lookin' dude following me now too to help me out.
2013/12/14 14:43:19
Beepster
BTW I learned a new term... DRM. These are DRM free so you can do whatever the heck you want with them after you dl them as opposed to syncing with your account which Steam seems to want to do with Everquest. Sorry if you covered that Spacealf. Kind of playing and popping back over to the tubes every so often so I didn't read your whole post.
 
The intrusiveness and "always online" crap of the newer gaming ways are a real turn off for me.
 
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