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  • ARC 2 Advanced Room Correction System | IK Multimedia (p.8)
2012/08/01 17:35:02
timidi
Anyone know if this new version clips if placed after a limiter (0.05db)? 

Thanks
2012/08/01 17:49:21
alexoosthoek
bapu


Here are the results of my 14 position measurement of my Mackie 824s.
 



My results with ARC2 looks like the one above, also it sounds more "open", I really don't know how to discribe it in other words. The results I have are from a totally untreated room :)
 
One thing I'm missing is to save the trim, did I miss anything?
 
 
Thanks IK!
 
 
2012/08/01 23:51:09
jayson
I finally found some time to take new measurements with ARC2.  I also took the opportunity to set up my monitors a bit closer together so I'm not exactly sure if the improvement I have noticed is due to ARC2 or something else. 

I pulled up my old ARC1 preset and it sounded bad compared to what ARC2 did.  The bass is tigher and the mid and highs are much more even.  Worth the upgrade!

Cheers,

jayson
2012/08/02 16:37:52
IK Obi
gustabo


Finally got around to using the new version and definitely an improvement!
Tighter bass and apparently better stereo separation.
(My kick drum is dead on centered now)
 

One question though, I'm 99.9% sure that I know what the "80's white" in the virtual list represents but what does the "90's black" represent?
 
What black monitor was popular in the 90's?

The 90's Black represents the response of a Genelec 1031, which we happen to have in IK's Studio 1. 
2012/08/02 18:40:14
gustabo
IK Obi


gustabo


Finally got around to using the new version and definitely an improvement!
Tighter bass and apparently better stereo separation.
(My kick drum is dead on centered now)


One question though, I'm 99.9% sure that I know what the "80's white" in the virtual list represents but what does the "90's black" represent?

What black monitor was popular in the 90's?

The 90's Black represents the response of a Genelec 1031, which we happen to have in IK's Studio 1. 

Thanks for that info.
I won't even ask what brand-model of car, laptop, boombox and tv!

2012/08/02 18:42:29
LANEY
LOL!
2012/08/03 05:41:47
STinGA
IK Obi


There should be an audible difference between the two. Please contact our Support so we can help you out.
STinGA


Obi, I seem to have a problem. 

I have taken 16 new measurements, but when I select the corrrection on and off with the new measurements I hear no difference even though there is significant differences in the curves. If I use the legacy measurements everything works as expected.

I have uninstalled and reinstalled and tried on different projects. 

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.






Thanks Obi, I took another 16 measurements and everything worked as expected. Must have been a corrupted measurement originally. 

2012/08/03 16:33:37
IK Obi
Awesome, how do you like it compared to Arc 1?
2012/08/03 18:02:09
STinGA
Love it. The low end seems much .....smoother? It's difficult to describe. And the simulations are very helpful too. 
2012/08/05 00:22:53
Danny Danzi
Well, for what it's worth, I'll give you guys my take. I've had so many people mail me and ask me about ARC 2...lol....they couldn't believe I didn't try it yet. I've had it for a while I just haven't had time to do the corrections. Tonight I did my Adam A-7's. Here are the corrections both ARC 1 and ARc 2 made for me. Not a drastic difference as you can tell.



HQ: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4909348/ARC%201%262.JPG

It DOES sound better, but that actually scares me. I have mixes that I messed up on purposely due to testing things. When I ran them through ARC 2, they sounded better and quite honestly, they shouldn't have. To me it seems to be hiding errors that are more difficult to hear now. What's weird is, it sounds nearly the same as ARC 1 for me. Toggling between the two, the only difference I hear is ARC 2 is a little tighter in the lows and mids and has a slight amount of high end sparkle. I like the way it sounds, but I don't know if I can trust it just yet.

I did quite a few corrections just to rule out any operator issues or errors. All of them came back sounding exactly the same except for one to where I had my sub turned up a bit too much.

ARC likes to remove low end. I had remembered that when I last did ARC 1, my mixes were coming out a bit bass heavy so I turned my sub up a few increments. I did my first correction with ARC 2 like that and forgot to turn the sub down to my "correction" setting. After that correction, I adjusted the sub and then after the correction was done, I turned the sub back up a few increments where I like it and my last batch of corrections are all exactly the same and sound the same.

This whole "better sounding" thing really does have me scared. I was working on a mix where I purposely put in some sub low experimenting with how much and how tight I could get it. The mix sounds cool but I over-did it just a little bit and it sounds like it on every set of monitors I own, in my car, on my pc speakers, on friends speakers....and even headphones.

ARC 2 makes it sound tighter than it really is so at this point, I'm not sure I can trust it just yet. ARC 1 shows the flaws in the mix instantly in the low end as well as the mids where ARC 2 just tightens it up so good, I'm VERY afraid to use it. I'm going to mess around some more though and see what the deal is. But it doesn't sound drastically different to me than ARC 1...it's just tighter like a multi-band comp is on my stuff or something. So far it's made my bad mixes sound good, and my good mixes sound great. I just don't know how to take that though at this point. LOL! I'll report back with anything new that I find out. I'll probably do the rest of my monitors tomorrow and see how they fair. But so far...I'm on the fence with this.

-Danny
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