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  • why gibson is less popular then fender these days? (p.21)
2013/12/02 19:50:06
yorolpal
Whelp...only 250 or so we're made of this ltd edition so I've got my fingers crossed about residual value as well.
2013/12/02 20:19:54
Ham N Egz
disclaimer: I didn't read all 7 pages
 
but I didn't think guitars were made from poplar wood.. ash maple plywood yes but not popular
 
 
I gargoyled poplar wood for guitars and came up with a dizzying amount of conflicting opinios
 
 
 
 
2013/12/02 22:30:37
ampfixer
Poplar and Basswood are used in addition to the classic tone woods. Guitar building forums have major discussions about woods and their effect on sound. It's a much bigger deal than Fender vs. Gibson.
2013/12/03 00:46:45
spacealf
I've seen some Fender guitars (or basses) that seem to have to be beat up first. Finish missing, wood showing, a real kind of wreck. Always reminded me of - the guitar has to be beat up first to sound any good.

 
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2013/12/03 01:02:34
yorolpal
I am of two minds on the "relic" phenomenon...first, I can understand a player wanting a true...or as close as possible...vintage axe ( hence my own new MIJ 58 Strat reissue) and second, I can even appreciate the road and time worn look of working players instruments (Tommy Emmanuel's Matons, for instance, when they are like he really likes them, are scratched up and dinged). But I cannot understand having someone else (I.e. The custom shop) "pre-dinging and pre-scarring" your guitar for you. I just don't get it. If it is to fool the audience into thinking you're playing an older and thereby more valuable (or cooler) instrument than you actually are then that says more about you than it does the instrument. Trash your own guitar if you must. But don't force some luthier to do it for you.
2013/12/03 01:06:12
Rain
yorolpal
I am of two minds on the "relic" phenomenon...first, I can understand a player wanting a true...or as close as possible...vintage axe ( hence my own new MIJ 58 Strat reissue) and second, I can even appreciate the road and time worn look of working players instruments (Tommy Emmanuel's Matons, for instance, when they are like he really likes them, are scratched up and dinged). But I cannot understand having someone else (I.e. The custom shop) "pre-dinging and pre-scarring" your guitar for you. I just don't get it. If it is to fool the audience into thinking you're playing an older and thereby more valuable (or cooler) instrument than you actually are then that says more about you than it does the instrument. Trash your own guitar if you must. But don't force some luthier to do it for you.



It's the golden age of fake.
2013/12/03 02:49:49
craigb
spacealf
I've seen some Fender guitars (or basses) that seem to have to be beat up first. Finish missing, wood showing, a real kind of wreck. Always reminded me of - the guitar has to be beat up first to sound any good.

 
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Below is Walter Trouts favorite guitar, a '73 Strat.  It was originally Artic White(!) but years of playing in smokey bars and you can see what happens.  Heck, if I saw this laying by a trashcan, I'd probably leave it there!  But, DAMN, does it sound good!  (Yes, I'm changing his D string for him - who the heck breaks their D strings???  Well, besides Walter I mean...)
 

2013/12/03 03:57:04
Rain
Ewww... But I bet it's a gem.
 
How bout Rory's? 



 
2013/12/03 06:07:11
spacey
musicman100
disclaimer: I didn't read all 7 pages
 
but I didn't think guitars were made from poplar wood.. ash maple plywood yes but not popular
 
 
I gargoyled poplar wood for guitars and came up with a dizzying amount of conflicting opinios
  



That Gibson I posted on this page has been one of the hottest jazz guitars for about 60 years - the top and back are laminated Maple/Poplar/Maple.....gargoyle sucks I guess. :)
2013/12/03 15:19:57
spacealf
But what you all need is a 4-string cigar box gitar!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qx7FDGpZQsQ
 
Making those slide sounds.

 
Oh ya, oh ya, oh ya.
 
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