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2012/09/02 21:56:58
Danny Danzi
craigb


Bottom line #2 - If you're buying a guitar because it's what you think others say you should buy, then you're getting it for the wrong reasons. 

If I find a guitar that feels great, plays great and produces the tones I want then I don't care what name is on the headstock.  Of course, I'd prefer the guitar to not look too offensive as well, but that's probably just me.

+1! Same for me Craig. I have a few junkers that sound and play as good as any super pricey axe in my opinion. If it sounds good and feels good, I run with it and actually feel proud to sport the name on the headstock.
 
I have a few old Cort, Cimar and Tokai guitars that are just plain insane in how they play and sound. Even the old Ibanez first generation neck-thru's are pretty killer like the rocket roll series. I still have one of those left. Got rid of the Iceman and the Destroyer, but kept the V. :)
 
-Danny
2012/09/02 21:59:15
yorolpal
@offnote: Nope...he's right.  If you don't care enough about the instrument you play to search, test, compare and decide for yourself...to hell with what anyone's marketing might tell you...then YOU ain't doin yor J.O.B.

Them's just the facts, Jack.
2012/09/02 22:02:39
Randy P
offnote


craigb


Bottom line #2 - If you're buying a guitar because it's what you think others say you should buy, then you're getting it for the wrong reasons. 

you're wrong here, we don't have time to test literally millions of guitars out there. That's why we go for brands well  know for reliability and quality.
Same with cars - we read reviews, safety and reliability reports then we chose a make and model. So yea we do care what others are saying. Don't underestimate the power of statistics.


Statistics? Who buys a guitar based on statistics? Like ol'pal,ive owned countless guitars and the sole reason I ever bought any of them was because I liked the way it felt in my hands at the time and the sound I could get it to make.


Randy
2012/09/02 22:05:07
Danny Danzi
offnote


craigb


Bottom line #2 - If you're buying a guitar because it's what you think others say you should buy, then you're getting it for the wrong reasons. 

you're wrong here, we don't have time to test literally millions of guitars out there. That's why we go for brands well  know for reliability and quality.
Same with cars - we read reviews, safety and reliability reports then we chose a make and model. So yea we do care what others are saying. Don't underestimate the power of statistics.

Yes but you have as much of a chance of getting it wrong as you do getting it right. Ever buy a CD based on a good friend's review and not like it once you heard it? Ever get ready to buy a car based on a recommendation, test drive it and realize it wasn't for you? Same with guitars. What works for one may not work for another. I hate PRS guitars and Parker Fly's. I don't care who uses them, what statistics say or if the next guitar god that comes about swears by them. I don't like how they look, how they sound or how they play.
 
No one has to test millions of guitars. You go to a store one day and grab a few off the rack and try them. If something makes you sport wood and you can afford it, you buy it. If not, you take another day some other time and visit another music store or go to a builder and have one custom made to your specs if you can. It's really a simple process...but it may take time because to me, a guitar is a soul mate. I can't just buy any guitar and love it. Each person demands a different set of options. Each player has different abilities so they may need a guitar that performs the way they want/need it to. It may not even be a guitar that is considered popular.
 
Some guys have big hands and need to get up high on the neck. Some guys have smaller hands and don't like the baseball bat necks you get on a Les Paul or some Strats. Some like myself prefer 24 frets, some like tele twang, some like the Strat type sound of an Ibanez over a real strat. Sometimes a Yamaha Pacifica will smoke every guitar on the rack regardless of what it is or how much it may cost. There are just too many variables really.
 
-Danny
2012/09/02 22:12:36
yorolpal
Danny's right (as per usual).  The fact that he loathes a Parker while I love mine is exactly what we're talking about.  YOU have to play it and YOU have to like it...so whether you like it or not...YOU'LL have to try it.  Anyone who buys any instrument on the recommendation of others or, worse, marketing without trying it first is just asking for disappointment and heartache.
2012/09/02 22:18:38
Beepster
I think this was intended to get people riled up but I don't really care because I just like talking about guitars. My current dream is to own a Music Man. The Yammy is brilliant though. I just gotta get the nut replaced and get some nice machine heads and it'll be primo. Eventually I'd like a new rocker too but that will cost far more and I'm not sure it's worth the investment... oh yeah... it needs some new action screw thingies too because the current ones are kind of stripped and gunked up and the one on the low E has a burr that cuts into the heel of my palm. Figures that's the most stripped one so I can't get the bugger out and swap it with one of the others.
2012/09/02 22:20:25
Danny Danzi
yorolpal


Danny's right (as per usual).  The fact that he loathes a Parker while I love mine is exactly what we're talking about.  YOU have to play it and YOU have to like it...so whether you like it or not...YOU'LL have to try it.  Anyone who buys any instrument on the recommendation of others or, worse, marketing without trying it first is just asking for disappointment and heartache.

And if the music you have shared past and present is you playing that guitar olpal, you Sir, have my blessing as I have never heard a bad tone from you. Just because I may not like a guitar, doesn't mean it's crap in the hands of someone else. We need to play the instrument that suits our needs and at the end of the day, that's really all that matters.
 
Then again olpal, nothing beats the Parker if you have that piezo deal going on. LOL! I have to admit, that was an incredible sound. But I just couldn't get over how wrong the guitar felt in my hands. I tried to like it and will give that piezo all the credit in the world. But shh...I didn't admit to that. LOL! :)
2012/09/02 22:24:29
Rbh
I play an 80's squire strat as my main ( beater) guitar. My main player is a 64 TD 335 12 string ( that has been strung as a 6 string for 30 years). I recently played an older Les Paul.. and I miss the feel of the weight. I really want one again. My major blow it moment in life was selling a 61 Strat and a 73 SG with Bigsby. I've owned and sold off maybe 15 guitars that I don't really regret - but each of them had a different characteristic to offer. The most expensive ( non vintage) guitar I've ever played was a custom Paul Reed Smith - Semi hollow with piezos' - beautiful guitar - but $10.000.00 - naw I don't think so. PRS and Taylor are other overly priced guitars in my book.
2012/09/02 22:32:54
offnote
Danny Danzi


Yes but you have as much of a chance of getting it wrong as you do getting it right. Ever buy a CD based on a good friend's review and not like it once you heard it? Ever get ready to buy a car based on a recommendation, test drive it and realize it wasn't for you?
 
-Danny

I repeat again, statistics -  sure I'd not rely on one friend opinion but Id' seriously consider 1000 friends opinion.


Anyway this is not really the point here in this thread which is more about why musicians today use wrong tools for the job 
and poor rock is dying...
2012/09/02 22:36:11
offnote
Rbh


 The most expensive ( non vintage) guitar I've ever played was a custom Paul Reed Smith - Semi hollow with piezos' - beautiful guitar - but $10.000.00 - naw I don't think so. PRS and Taylor are other overly priced guitars in my book.

oh come on, you pay more for stupid car...
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