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  • Longshot but anyone interested in doing some mastering for a non-profit?
2015/04/06 16:13:43
dubdisciple
I do part time work in an urban teen center studio. We provide free studio time to kids ranging from 12-20.  There would be no pay since there is no budget. I also warn that 80% of what is recorded is hip-hop. There is occassionally gospel and R&B. I realize hip-hop is not exactly the genre of choice on these forums but imho, the best mastering for such often comes from people who do not have the same personal attachment to the genre. I also warn that some of the lyrics are not family friendly. This is an issue that has been debated back and forth for years.  We have a compromise of sorts in place to allow them freedom of expression with the condition they must create songs that are more positive in addition. I could go into the whole complexity of things like n-word usage and such (not a fan but i understand to a degree), but I am not seeking approval for them but someone who can be clinical. Figure someone may want the challenge of stepping outside of comfort zone.  Thanks for reading.
2015/04/06 19:48:29
gswitz
Ping me. I'll give it a try.
2015/04/06 20:10:09
dubdisciple
Thanks.  Sent PM with links to artist that is closest to being ready.  He creates his own music.  Tracking is done at studio in logic, but on his tracks i mix them at home in Sonar.
2015/04/07 08:17:37
bitflipper
I would be reluctant to do anyone the disservice of mixing, mastering or advising on the making of hip-hop, as I simply have near-zero expertise in the genre.
 
But I do enjoy encouraging kids to explore intellectual pursuits that might eventually free them from the herd mentality of mindless consumerism, me-too-ism and the myth that you can purchase a personality at the mall. 
 
Tell me more.
2015/04/07 10:54:51
gswitz
I got a very nice personality at the mall, thank you very much!
2015/04/07 18:22:11
dubdisciple
bitflipper
I would be reluctant to do anyone the disservice of mixing, mastering or advising on the making of hip-hop, as I simply have near-zero expertise in the genre.
 
But I do enjoy encouraging kids to explore intellectual pursuits that might eventually free them from the herd mentality of mindless consumerism, me-too-ism and the myth that you can purchase a personality at the mall. 
 
Tell me more.


one of the things I have found to be true ( at least for me) is that music is music. We may like some more than others and there may be a few fashionable trends for the moment, but the basic laws of physics stay the same.  In hip-hop the voice tends to be out front a little more but the knowledge you have is valuable regardless of what you apply it to. It is also an opportunity to learn. I certainly don't expect you to suddenly get platinum grills and 24 inch rims, but sometimes a better understanding of cultures different from your own can be rewarding even if you never fully embrace. I know I learn stuff constantly when dealing with kids from different backgrounds. I never would have imagined I would form close bomds with kids from Afghanistan, Iraq and even Nepal.
 
Our program is pretty simple. We have a modest studio available mostly consisting of donated equipment and software with a few things thrown in via small grant and ournown personal assets. Any kid in the community can use for free.  Although most simply record, they are welcome to get tutoring in music production as well. Most post on soundcloud or put file on phone, but a couple have ability that could have wider appeal.  There are is a diverse group who sing mostly gospel in their native tongues that blow me away with their raw talent but have not come in consistently enough to complete a full project.  Part of what we are trying to impart in these youth is the importance of finishing and following a process. I face many challenges  in this. From the complexities of handling the extreme diversity ( over 140 languages are spoken) in the school district due to this community being a UN settlement area for refugees, to the stunted development of dealing with kids who never had a father. Some are angry. Some are confused. I know I cannot save them all. I know that their language and outlook on life is not always what i want it to be, but this is my foot in the door to at least provide an outlet to express themselves in a way that beats the crap out of the alternatives.
 
Basically what I need is simple mastering. Our space has some limitations, although getting ARC 2 ( there goes the rest of my budget) has helped so I don't trust what I hear completely and I tend to find having someone else master at a different  location yields better results for me. Hip-hop mastering has a few minor differences but I stress minor. The kick, snare and voice are probably more pronounced than most genres but not as much as many assume. 
 
Thanks to both of you for taking the time to respond and listen.
2015/04/07 19:28:01
mettelus
Hey Dub, I would be interested in helping out with this as well. I am an ardent supporter of music for kids and feel it is a sin to remove music programs from schools. That genre is not my strong suit, but I definitely could use opening my horizons, and proficiency is proficiency regardless.
 
How does this all work? I am a bit wary to bite off more than I can chew, but this cause is definitely a good one.
 
@Bit, regardless of genre, you are one more than "qualified" for such. I have had your songs page linked for a long time and have always admired your skill and know-how. I have always been impressed with that page (as well as your philosophy there).
2015/04/07 20:50:23
dubdisciple
i am so appreciative that anyone responded.  I know i am not roses and sunshine all the time, but off these boards I am mostly a "do gooder" or at least i try to be and this forum has helped me help a lot of people.  Thank you.
2015/04/07 20:53:22
dubdisciple
As I indicated to some via private message, in order to keep workload down and expectations to a minimal, i will simply send a stereo mix for mastering to whoever is willing.  When the entire project is finished, I will find whoever is willing to give the tracks a consistency before pressing. Of course i will make sure proper credit is given.
2015/04/08 08:15:04
gswitz
Dub, I put CD text on the files I gave back. I just want to make you aware. I can modify it or strip it as you prefer.

I used minus twelve on the EBU meter for the master. We should probably all master to the same agreed level if you plan to release as a composite work like a single CD.
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