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backwoods
 
Funny how people have an aversion to "black" music too. But I guess that flips both ways and as Anton newcombe said "GnR were not a great band because black people don't listen to them"

 
Overgeneralization.
 
It's entirely possible - and quite frequent - to be the biggest blues, gospel, jazz or reggae fan and not to like hip hop or RnB.

Whatever bro. About what 57gregy said- about rocking Neil Young. Well that other thread (100 great albums) had Young's "On The Beach"- check out this for a cool song - hints of C. Manson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZilu4ApCI0

dubdisciple
For the record..its not much hating rap that sometimes has racial overtones in this forum, it is typically the way it is expressed. That makesbit appear that way.I'm not a big fan of rap these days myself but I habe seen more than a few theeads where it takes an ugly turn.

I'm always reminded of that day where a friend of ours walked into the apartment my pal and I were sharing and brought to our attention that besides one SRV poster, there were no white guys on our walls. Hendrix, Guy, Davis, Parker, Marley, etc...
 
And to be honest, we'd never even realized.
 
OTOH, I have no problem telling you that I don't like rap nor the violent gangster culture and attitude it quite often (though not exclusively) promotes. That's where I draw the limit for myself. It doesn't change a thing for rappers or their audience. Free speech goes both ways.
 
But to me, there's a world of difference between Rocko and his rap about date raping a woman and Louis Armstrong singing What a Wonderful World. 
 
It's also not too surprising that a forum filled w/ guys who spent years learning to play music won't be too inclined to favour a genre that's often limited to a drum loop with a guy speaking rhythmically and a line sampled from a 80s hit for all melody...

backwoods
 
Whatever bro. 

As soon as I say I dislike a certain type of music, I hear something on the radio that make a liar out of me.
 
My music mould was created in the late 60's and early 70's. The big British rock bands playing blues got me hooked on guitar. The Beatles were in a class by themselves.
 
I want to say I hate rap and hip hop as done in America because it does nothing for me. I spent some time in Negril, Jamaica one summer and their version of rap was amazing. It was essentially the DJ playing music while doing this amazing voice over and adding effects like reverb and delay. It worked there and it belonged there. When you went to take a walk, the music seemed to be coming from everywhere. That was in the mid 80's, before I was really exposed to American Rap in any large amount.

ampfixer
As soon as I say I dislike a certain type of music, I hear something on the radio that make a liar out of me.
 
My music mould was created in the late 60's and early 70's. The big British rock bands playing blues got me hooked on guitar. The Beatles were in a class by themselves.
 
I want to say I hate rap and hip hop as done in America because it does nothing for me. I spent some time in Negril, Jamaica one summer and their version of rap was amazing. It was essentially the DJ playing music while doing this amazing voice over and adding effects like reverb and delay. It worked there and it belonged there. When you went to take a walk, the music seemed to be coming from everywhere. That was in the mid 80's, before I was really exposed to American Rap in any large amount.

There is great music in every genre, indeed. You know, I don't like hip hop and rap, but I've always been a Beastie Boys fan (I guess that's where someone will jump in and say that I'm a racist because Beastie Boys aren't black...) There are rap elements on the first NIN album - which I love. Faith No More, one of my favorite bands ever - they used to rap (and their first singer was black and it was totally unimportant).
 
Come to think of it - my wife did an amazing arrangement of Ave Maria with a rapper back home which they played in Ottawa for Canada day a few years ago. Magic.
 
 

dubdisciple
For the record..its not much hating rap that sometimes has racial overtones in this forum, it is typically the way it is expressed. That makesbit appear that way.I'm not a big fan of rap these days myself but I habe seen more than a few theeads where it takes an ugly turn.

I think apart from the music element, people dislike the street culture that it's come to represent. And that includes many older black people that I speak to. They love rap for what it was back in the day, they hate what it's become. And I hate it too. I just hate the whole angry, thuggish sound of it. Here in New York I sometimes work with my window open, and every 30 seconds or so an SUV drives by slowly with modern rap blaring, and from the lyrics I manage to make out there is invariably the n-word and the b-word and references to one of the following themes: violence, intimidation, jealousy, disrespect, wealth. It's not just the content of the lyrics, it's the way they're articulated as well - the angry vocal posture which gets old after about 10 seconds. My dislike of this music does not have any racial overtones at all. I've spent my whole life listening to black music - the blues, jazz, reggae, ska, soul, funk. Nor does my dislike of the culture it represents have any racial overtones. To suggest that it does is to deny that the vast majority of black people do not have anything to do with thug culture, or that there are people of other races who partake in this culture too. It's perfectly OK to hate thug rap and there is no need whatsoever to bring skin color into it. If death metal bands were singing about shooting each other and actually doing it in real life, I'd hate that whole culture too. 

What's "thug" rap got to do with it? 

backwoods
What's "thug" rap got to do with it? 

Because when people say they hate rap, that's generally what they're referring to. Chances are they're not referring to Grandmaster Flash. 

OK. Hate the "thug" rap which we hear so much of these days then... 

backwoods
OK. Hate the "thug" rap which we hear so much of these days then... 

I do. Apart from the violent element, I just don't hear much of musical interest in it and haven't for years. Now someone like Kool Keith, I could listen to.