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  • Renaissance Bass - Free (p.6)
2013/12/01 21:21:29
cclarry
Really, for the plugins contained in that package that is one crazy good deal....
That and CLA Signature for $69....wow...that's nutz...
 
2013/12/01 21:39:10
ohgrant
Yea, I'd have to agree. Defiantly they delivered on the crazy deal pledge. Best deals I've seen from them on a Black Friday. Tap 2 was the main one I wanted from that, love it on vocals. Still a pretty ugly win 3.0 looking GUI, but sounds great.  
2013/12/01 21:42:40
cclarry
And that's what's important...a nice GUI is always great...but sound is where it counts...
2013/12/02 08:50:40
dcumpian
sharke
I use Maxxbass all the time and find that when you use it correctly, it adds clarity to the bass and makes it sit in the mix better. It doesn't work in every situation, but there have been times when I've been tearing my hair out trying to get the bass to sound more intelligible and Maxxbass has worked wonders. Of course like most plugs, it's quite possible to dial in settings that make it sound worse, and I have no doubt that RBass is the same.



Exactly. Don't put it on the mix unless you are trying to fix a bass problem. I find it incredibly useful in defining the kick and, occasionally, some bass parts.
 
Regards,
Dan
 
2013/12/02 12:26:25
Eddie TX
bitflipper
But if there's a trick to "knowing how to use it", then please educate me!



I've had the most success with RBass on kick drums that needed some extra oomph.  Tuned to the right frequency, usually 50-60Hz, it can give a thin-sounding kick some real weight.
 
Cheers,
Eddie
 
2013/12/02 12:39:55
dubdisciple
I decided to see what it would do in an actual mix instead of simply setting up tests.  it definitely gave the kick more "oomph" but instantly the clarity on my low end was gone. I ended up taking another approach.  I cloned the kick track, used a high pass on one and a low pass filter on the other, essentially splitting my kick into hig hand low.  I used the Rbass on the low and a transient shaper on the high.  I would have probably got a similar result by using a sidechain compressor to trigger a sine wave but this was slightly simpler.
2013/12/03 15:51:38
bitflipper
I tested RBass with kick tracks, too, based on suggestions above.
 
Be careful when testing that you level-match and at least test with eyes closed if you can't do a true blind A/B. I found that I had to lower an RBass-treated kick between 6 and 10 decibels to get the same volume (determined both by ear and by RMS meters) as the unprocessed track. It's easy to fall into the trap of thinking something's been improved when in reality it's only been made louder.
 
 
RBass did indeed add some fullness when the frequency was set to around 60Hz. However, Voxengo LF Max Punch did that, too - but without killing the attack transients like RBass does. 
 
My favorite method for beefing up kicks with low-frequency whump, though, is still layering a synth. This lets me precisely control how much whump, what frequency the whump centers on, how many harmonics to add to the whump, and the precise envelope of the whump. Assuming, of course, that a kick needs more whump. 
2013/12/03 16:04:31
dubdisciple
Good advice. I have fallen into that trap. I know the teens at the studio I volunteer at fall into it all the time
2013/12/06 08:33:26
Milt
I agree with a couple of earlier posters. R Bass is a waste. I have bass rider, which I like, and I have Masserati Vocal, which I also like, but R Bass, meh. Waves install is so convoluted and screwed up, it took me 2 days to get the plugs back that I like after trying to install the worthless RBass. I'm going to stay away from Waves from now on.
2013/12/06 10:31:13
bitflipper
Milt
I'm going to stay away from Waves from now on.



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