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MoshkiaeI think the biggest problem is that we're stuck on our own "physics" and do not believe that there are other type of organisms out there that live in completely different environments that we can not conceive.
 
Gotta love how egocentric the science is in that matter. WE'RE defining what is out there in the universe, instead of that universe defining for us what there is and there is not!

"Physics" is not an opinion.
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Not sure about that! Most astrophysicists disagree on a lot of things and theories.
 
The point was, that we're too small and think that the physics that work here in our environment are the same physics that work in different environments, and that is a supposition, not physics.
 
Question is, would the physics also stand up in the bigger celestial world, and we can not say with any certainty that it can ... we're just now getting out of our VERY OWN solar system with Voyager, to be able to get any idea, and the information from there will change a lot of physics in the next 10 years!
 
Keep an eye on it!

Physics/science is evidence based. Though indeed competing theories are common in the scientific world, those theories will either be confirmed, discarded or continue as unproven theories based on evidence. Or perhaps they will be rejected based on their own inconsistencies or incoherence, or superseded by newer "better" theories.
 
Randomly imagining that different rules might somehow apply somewhere else and then assuming that this is likely to be true - absent any evidence or coherent theory why this should be so - is an error in reasoning. You can assert that things might be different somewhere somehow, but until there is evidence that things are different somewhere, or there is a comprehensive theory explaining why we might expect things to be different in particular ways, there is nothing there.

 
+1 to all of this ^^^^^^^^^
 
 
 

I remember a time in my childhood when an alien dropped by for a visit.  He said his name, but I don't remember what it was.  I think it was "Tom."  I offered him a slice of my toast and he cut it into thirds so he could slip a piece into each shoe.  After he finished buttering his eyestalks, he said he wanted to watch some TV.
 
I turned it on and his ear lobe hit the floor.  He pointed at the screen with a trembling nosenail.  "One of these things is not like the other..." sang the box.  He collapsed in amazement.
 
I don't know how long he stayed like that, but I know I finished Sesame Street and had moved on to The Electric Company before my dog bit him.  He was in her spot.  Also, it was more of a nip.
 
He fled from the house, screaming something about pattern recognition.  I turned back to the TV because they were running a test of the Emergency Broadcast System.  I was always hopeful that one of these days, it wouldn't be a test.
 
He came back a week later.  We watched TV and ate grilled cheese sandwiches.  Tom got melted cheese stuck between his toes.  So did I.  Sesame Street came on and the Count added one to another number.  It blew Tom's mind.
 
The last post reminded me of that day.
 
Hope that helps.

UbiquitousBubba
I remember a time in my childhood when an alien dropped by for a visit.  He said his name, but I don't remember what it was.  I think it was "Tom."  I offered him a slice of my toast and he cut it into thirds so he could slip a piece into each shoe.  After he finished buttering his eyestalks, he said he wanted to watch some TV.
 
I turned it on and his ear lobe hit the floor.  He pointed at the screen with a trembling nosenail.  "One of these things is not like the other..." sang the box.  He collapsed in amazement.
 
I don't know how long he stayed like that, but I know I finished Sesame Street and had moved on to The Electric Company before my dog bit him.  He was in her spot.  Also, it was more of a nip.
 
He fled from the house, screaming something about pattern recognition.  I turned back to the TV because they were running a test of the Emergency Broadcast System.  I was always hopeful that one of these days, it wouldn't be a test.
 
He came back a week later.  We watched TV and ate grilled cheese sandwiches.  Tom got melted cheese stuck between his toes.  So did I.  Sesame Street came on and the Count added one to another number.  It blew Tom's mind.
 
The last post reminded me of that day.
 
Hope that helps.

Um, not trying to nit-pick such a nice story UB, but I believe his name was actually "Thom."
 
HTH.

So, you've met him, then?
 
He was a nice guy.  I felt bad about his explosion.  As far as that's concerned, I would just like to say that it was not my fault.  I hadn't seen him for many years and I had grown accustomed to leaving my TV remote out.  I wasn't expecting him to drop in. 
 
We exchanged a few pleasantries, he handed me a spiny plant that he said would eat bats, and he grabbed the remote.  He scanned some stations and then it happened.  He stopped on a PBS channel and froze in slack tongued amazement.
 
The TV sang, "Tinky Winky, Dipsy, Laa Laa, Po," and I knew we were in trouble.  He squeaked softly, swelled up, kicked his faces, and popped like a ballon.  You would not believe how hard it is to clean alien carcass out of your carpet.
 
On the positive side, my neighborhood has been bat free ever since.

Don't feel too sad.  The exoskeleton is just for our benefit; his kind don't realize the shock and cleanup has on our species when they shed it.  You probably didn't notice, but his "essence" left your house in the shape of a fruitfly (hence his fear of bats).  I'm guessing he'll be back after he takes a few off-planet AA meetings (Aliens Anonymous).

Moshkiae
 
I think the biggest problem is that we're stuck on our own "physics" and do not believe that there are other type of organisms out there that live in completely different environments that we can not conceive.
 
Gotta love how egocentric the science is in that matter. WE'RE defining what is out there in the universe, instead of that universe defining for us what there is and there is not!

Says who? Those things you speak of happen right here on Earth as scientists discover strange new life forms in areas they thought completely uninhabitable. We yet know very little about the place we occupy.
 
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We yet know very little about the Coffee House we post in.

Quantized.

soens

 
We know very little.
 

Greatly Exaggerated.

and yet the aliens still come across billions of miles of space, with their probes...

 
I only found out how ugly I was when I was abducted by aliens...
 
"Well, let's get it over with" I remarked, "I expect you're going to probe me now aren't you?"
 
"Not tonight" it replied, "I've got a headache"