backwoods
More government funding is wasted on crap science than religion I believe. I believe this can be scientifically proven.

Care to define "crap science"?
 
 

backwoods
Hitchens knew all religious texts back to front. Dawkins has never read the Koran.
 
Hitchens should be commended for "knowing thine enemy", Dawkins wshould be commended for not wasting his time I suppose.
 
Jesus Christ is a New Testament character BTW. 
 
Much social structure came from the bible- like it or not, you were raised on Christian ethics guys....

I don't think any atheist would discard the influence of christianity over civilisation. As for social structure? The greeks had quite an influence on us too, didn't they. Without them, I'm not sure that christianity would have prospered as well. Plus, those Christian ethics were (awkwardly) grafted onto the Jewish ethics. 
 
You mentioned before that you are more of a New Testament person, but, if it had not been sold as the accomplishment of the Ancient Testament, the New Testament would not exist. They may often be irreconcilable logically - which is why I guess many Christians just toss the embarrassing Old Testament aside - but, imho, you cannot consequently take one and reject the other. 
 
So Jesus-Christ may be a New Testament character, but the christianity really is about the accomplishment of the Old Testament. Many early christians and many christian scholars made it a point to hunt down anything they could use in the Old Testament to demonstrate that Jesus was the messiah. As far fetched as it got at times. Any mention of a wooden stake in the OT would become a prophecy about the death of Christ on the cross. In fact, many fundamentalist christians still do just that. Everything in the OT has its pendant in the New Testament. 
 
Anyway, what people read and how they understand the Bible is greatly influenced by their familial and social context. 
Some christians condemn gay people. OTOH, I know many gay "christians" who try to follow the teachings of "Christ". All of them think that they have the right understanding of it. If your heart is full of hate and bigotry, you will find the fuel for that in the Bible. If it's full of love, you'll find things which make sense. Personally, I see just as much of both. 
 
 

crap science funding is when dumb career academics are given sinecures and paid government money with no expectation of ever producing /anything of any worth for their entire career.
 
The money would be better left in the taxpayer pocket but a country has to be seen to be doing the right thing you know.

backwoods
crap science funding is when dumb career academics are given sinecures and paid government money with no expectation of ever producing /anything of any worth for their entire career.
 
The money would be better left in the taxpayer pocket but a country has to be seen to be doing the right thing you know.

That's a political issue, not a scientific one. And, honestly, that's what alarms you? 
 
What about the gazillions $ upon which Vatican is sitting and all the children who've been abused and all the people tortured and murdered in the name of faith?

It indicates that most scientists are not productive people.

backwoods
It indicates that most scientists are not productive people.

Do you have data to back that up?

Priests in their ivory towers and contemplative saints should be regarded as the ultimate exemple of productive people, of course...
Praying = productive.
Picketing funerals = productive.
Protesting gay mariage = really productive.
 
 
 
 

Priests get government funding now do they?
 
p.s. Prayer is very productive for world peace in my opinion.

backwoods
Priests get government funding now do they?

Tax exemptions they get are an important waste, as far as I'm concerned.
 
The computer I'm using to type these words, the internet, electricity and all the rest wouldn't be here without science.
Try and use none of these - just "pray" your next answer for fun... Then we can talk about dismissing the scientific community as non-productive.

Do you know what science is rain?