2013/11/05 14:59:54
backwoods
Maybe it would be heaven on earth if all religion was banned like they tried in Cambodia that time.
 
p.s. Isn't there a church of atheism now. 
 
http://www.salon.com/2013/09/22/atheism_starts_its_megachurch_is_it_a_religion_now/
2013/11/05 15:52:55
Rain
backwoods
Maybe it would be heaven on earth if all religion was banned like they tried in Cambodia that time.
 
p.s. Isn't there a church of atheism now. 
 
http://www.salon.com/2013/09/22/atheism_starts_its_megachurch_is_it_a_religion_now/




The thing is that, as an atheist, I'm not expecting heaven on earth. I don't believe in any sort of paradise. I don't believe in a messiah.
 
And I don't believe in banning religion either - making drugs illegal does not prevent people from becoming junkies. I do however hope that religion can be kept to oneself and doesn't affect legislation and such.
 
I do hope that religious organisations cease to benefit from tax exemption. It irks me to no end that there are no custom fees for importation of chocolate around easter or that religious symbols such as crosses and figures benefit from the same exemption all year round. If we were to lift up custom fees, why not do it for something like, say, environment-friendly products?
 
I've heard about the church of atheism. Personally, I don't think much of it - I thought they used the expression w/ a tongue in cheek twist. I'd rather they hadn't used it at all. And to be honest with you, there are millions of so-called atheists out there who still employ the exact same thought patterns as they did when they were religious. They pretty much substituted one system of beliefs for another. They go on believing in astrology and luck and ghosts and aliens...
 
It is a sad reality that most atheists I've talked to need to believe in something that cannot be verified just as much as the members of any church. 
2013/11/05 16:15:12
yorolpal
dogma am god?
 
or is that
 
madam I'm adam.
 
2013/11/05 16:24:04
backwoods
dammit I'm mad
2013/11/05 16:43:57
craigb
A man, a plan, a canal: Panama
Straw?  No, too stupid a fad.  I put soot on warts.
2013/11/05 17:35:36
The Maillard Reaction
"It is a sad reality that most atheists I've talked to need to believe in something that cannot be verified"
 
This circumstance is probably caused by the fact that Atheism is a belief rather than knowledge based on infallible logic, or empirical evidence.
 
Fixed.
 
 
 
 
 
 
Hi Paul, I like the intro sequence to your video blog. I believe in smiling, I enjoyed watching it and it made me smile.
 
best regards,
mike
2013/11/05 17:45:58
Rain
mike_mccue
"It is a sad reality that most atheists I've talked to need to believe in something that cannot be verified"
 
This circumstance is probably caused by the fact that Atheism is a belief rather than knowledge based on infallible logic, or empirical evidence.
 
Fixed.
 




That was to be expected...
 
There are atheists who decide that beliefs, though they have their place, should yield to knowledge and facts. You understand that there is a difference between that "belief" which is a result of an evaluation and believing in tarot or astrology, don't you? 
 
In fact I have no doubt that you do. After all, your own statement is the result of your own beliefs, not infaillible logic and empirical evidence. Trying to fix faulty logic with faulty logic...
2013/11/05 17:53:15
backwoods
"He said not to look at the facts, but at the meaning of the facts. Then he said the facts had no meaning".- some Coen Brothers movie.
 
Would the simplest solution be for nothing to exist?
 
Please remember Popper's graveyard of dead scientific ideas. No idea is fully corroborated, and any contrary evidence invalidates it. And yet average Joes who have read a couple of popular science books are pretty darn confident in their beliefs.
2013/11/05 18:01:29
Rain
backwoods
 
Please remember Popper's graveyard of dead scientific ideas. No idea is fully corroborated, and any contrary evidence invalidates it. And yet average Joes who have read a couple of popular science books are pretty darn confident in their beliefs.


 
That is looking at science with the religious-like expectation of finding an absolute eternal and finite truth which cannot be disproved. That's not what science is about. 
 
IMHO, the need for a magical explanation which can explain everything is something which can and must be outgrown. As long as we think in religious term and judge science in those terms, obviously, it won't seem like a valid answer. The problem isn't the answer or the lack of an answer, it's what what you want the answer to be.
2013/11/05 18:08:16
backwoods
That's right rain.
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