2018/01/12 22:52:09
michael diemer
I've adjusted to the almost certain demise of Sonar. But this forum is a really special place. It's my internet home, the first place I go to every time I sit down at my computer. I'm not on social media, and I've been restricting my forum time to the ones that I get real help from (and, on rare occasions, help someone else...hey, even a broken clock is right twice a day (unless you take into account relativity, then you have to specify position and velocity).
 
Anyway...I will be possibly even more devastated if this forum dies. I can continue using Sonar perhaps forever, but there's no place like this on the internet. It's home. I know about the spin-off forums, but those never really seem to satisfy. They will never approach the critical mass this place has. There simply is nothing to compare with it. When it's gone, it's going to be lonesome-ville for me. And, I suspect, a lot of other folks. If there's a way to keep it going, even if some of us have to pay,  in which case, count me in. The knowledge and, for the most part, civility that resides here are irreplaceable.
 
 
If we can't keep Sonar going, let's at least keep this place going! It's a life-line, a present help in time of need, a...oh well, you get the idea.
2018/01/12 22:57:39
CakeAlexSHere
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2018/01/12 23:01:30
tlw
The forum is part of the domain cakewalk.com.

Unsurprisingly, the domain is registered in the name of Cakewalk Inc. The domain registration auto-expires, unless renewed, in 2019.

How long this forum lasts depends on how long Gibson, the owners of Cakewalk Inc., are willing to pay the hosting and running costs and maintain the domain registration. Gibson may be willing to part with the domain cakewalk.com, but I’d be surprised if they didn’t expect anyone who wants the domain to buy Cakewalk while they’re at it.

I agree it will be a shame to see the forum disappear, the techniques sub-forum alone is a very valuable resource on all kinds of recording and audio-related topics. But the future of the forum is really in Gibson’s hands because they own the domain and they are paying the bills. Even something as “simple” as moderating and admining a forum with thousands of users is a pretty hefty amount of work, and unless the work is done well forums turn into playgrounds for trolls and spammers.

And the forum software is commercial as well I believe, so there’s the cost of that to take into account as well.

So this forum will last as long as Gibson decides it will.
2018/01/12 23:20:37
Cactus Music
It's already sort of half gone. All those who switched DAW's are now on those forums.. Mind you I see a bunch are using the Software forum and it's sort of funny how they are getting better answers here than they did on the actual official help forums. Certainly the Cubase forum is terrible. I haven't bothered to ask question there in years. You'll get one reply after you wait a few days. You get better service using Gear slutz DAW sub forums. 
Sounds like the Studio one forum is now populated by mostly Ex Sonar people asking questions. 
 
The other thing already here is there are now no more newbies asking questions. 
Another thing that took up a lot of forum space was Sonar updates as people posted a lot about that.
Now we are down to a few hangers on. 
One thing you do see is a lot of lurkers have come o the forefront, long time members that don't normally post are now active which is a good thing. 
 
And there is at least 2 new forum that started up, I think Bapu's is the active one, The other was someone called panup. 
2018/01/13 00:10:29
Rbh
I'm hanging out  - til the bulldozers have their way with this forum.
2018/01/13 00:24:36
tlw
Cactus Music
It's already sort of half gone. All those who switched DAW's are now on those forums.. Mind you I see a bunch are using the Software forum and it's sort of funny how they are getting better answers here than they did on the actual official help forums. Certainly the Cubase forum is terrible.


I reckon this forum is/has been about the best software peer-to-peer support I’ve come across in the 27 years I’ve been using the internet*. It’s a bit ironic that some of the most popular DAWs have at best poor support forums compared to Cakewalk, and I include Logic in that. Apple’s forums in particular don’t really encourage the kind of to-and-fro of conversation and ideas exchange that we get here and is so useful.

*maybe equal first with the demon.service newsgroup for the first few years after Demon Internet first started in ‘91/2.
2018/01/13 01:07:20
abacab
Cactus Music
It's already sort of half gone. All those who switched DAW's are now on those forums.. Mind you I see a bunch are using the Software forum and it's sort of funny how they are getting better answers here than they did on the actual official help forums. Certainly the Cubase forum is terrible. I haven't bothered to ask question there in years. You'll get one reply after you wait a few days. You get better service using Gear slutz DAW sub forums. 
Sounds like the Studio one forum is now populated by mostly Ex Sonar people asking questions. 
 
The other thing already here is there are now no more newbies asking questions. 
Another thing that took up a lot of forum space was Sonar updates as people posted a lot about that.
Now we are down to a few hangers on. 
One thing you do see is a lot of lurkers have come o the forefront, long time members that don't normally post are now active which is a good thing. 
 
And there is at least 2 new forum that started up, I think Bapu's is the active one, The other was someone called panup. 




I've got one foot in Bapu's forum "Beyond Cakewalk" already, my plan B in case the lights go out here.  It seems to be pretty well balanced, and fairly active.  http://beyondcakewalk.com/forum/
 
Also joined the other forum by panup, "Plan B".  http://sonarmods.com/sonarmods/forum2017/index.php#c2
 
Between the two forums, they seem to be populated by many former regulars here.  There seems to be some forking going on, so nowhere near the critical mass this forum had.
2018/01/13 02:04:37
sharke
Cactus Music
The other thing already here is there are now no more newbies asking questions. 



It worried me a little that there were never that many newbies asking questions though. I guess if there had have been more, Cakewalk would have been in better financial shape. 
2018/01/13 02:29:35
CakeAlexSHere


Well adiós for now until something actually happens here.... I've got two new DAWs to learn, a tax return and an album to finish (finally feel like now is the time). It's been brief and a little more pleasant now the fanboy element has mostly (but not altogether) disappeared.

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2018/01/13 04:12:37
Unknowen
Speaking of Newbies... I've noticed as looking for other DAWs that people who have videos up about "My DAW" is the best choice always talk about the things wrong with the other guys daws but NEVER have I seen a video saying I use this daw because Sonar is bad! it's like crazy odd that all the other daws trash each other's daws. It's like there was a black out of Sonar. I wounder how many people running from ProTools or Cubase even new that Sonar existed. :(
All Cakewalk had to do was market Sonar! 
It makes me sick!
 
  
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