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  • How is BFD3's stability and such?
2013/10/22 17:17:20
Sycraft
I'm thinking I might want it, but a big thing for me is not having issues with my VIs. EastWest Play is a never ending source of issues, so I don't want something like that. So is BFD3 stable, like not crashing on load, insert, patch changes, bounce, etc? Also does it always bounce right (no dropouts, distortion, or pops or the like)?
 
Thanks.
2013/10/22 23:13:47
gmon72
I haven't had it crash once. Using it with Cubase and Standalone from launch date.
2013/10/23 08:02:57
twaddle
Sycraft
I'm thinking I might want it, but a big thing for me is not having issues with my VIs. EastWest Play is a never ending source of issues, so I don't want something like that. So is BFD3 stable, like not crashing on load, insert, patch changes, bounce, etc? Also does it always bounce right (no dropouts, distortion, or pops or the like)?
 
Thanks.




 
Hi Sycraft
In answer to all of your questions it is very stable, I wouldn't say it's uncrashable but as a beta tester I was doing my best to crash it and I've not managed to for quite some time now so I would say it is extremely stable on my system (see my signature)
The biggest issues some people have been having are to do with download and installation which fxpansion are working on although in some cases it can be user error.
I can't recommend BFD3 highly enough and the new kits from platinum samples are really something else.
 
Steve
 
Edit, Just to add, there should be a demo along in the next week or so, so you can get a feel of it before you decide and see how stable it is on your system.
2013/10/23 08:51:12
ltb
I've haven't use it in Sonar yet but it's locked up Cubase a few times.

Could be it's not playing nice with some other software. Alchemy sometimes causes problems & glitches.

Otherwise it's working well & stable. I prefer it over BFD2 but
wish it could be re-sized to BFD2's smaller gui.
2013/10/23 15:57:19
munmun
I am a BFD2 user.  I am not great at mixing drums and have struggled with getting those raw sounds to sound good.  Does BFD3 have a lot of presets that would negate the need to tweek to get it great sounding?
2013/10/23 16:39:11
ltb
There's a few good ones but I only use them as starting points. 
 
I got some good results mixing inside BFD3 with their own effects as well.
With other software I usually need to mix everything from scratch inside the daw using other plugins.
2013/10/23 16:41:01
twaddle
I'll be honest, it comes with 37 presets in total, I was expecting a lot more.
I just asked on the forum if there were more planned for the future so will let you know what the official response is.
I can't remember how many came with BFD2 but probably about the same number give or take a few.
 
I'm not criticizing but you have to appreciate that it not really what BFD2 or BFD3 is about.
 
I could tell you to get addictive drums if you don't want to spend time creating your own unique sounds and now that it's included
with Sonar X3 you might be more inclined to upgrade. Addictive drums comes with just over 150 presets and most of their e3xpansion kits come with around 50 or so which is impressive. But to my ears the sound quality of addictive drums in quite poor in comparison to both BFD2, BFD3 and even BFD Eco. They are very compressed and they sound it too.
 
I'm working on a song in BFD3 using one the included new kits and I have to say the sound of the kit is almost perfect and requires very little in the way of compression or effects, it just breaths and sounds so natural. But of course that all depends on what sound you're looking for. I might post it when I'm done.
All the BFD2 kits and presets will load in to BFD3 and I spent an entire evening converting all my BFD Eco presets to be usable in BFD3 and have posted them on the forum.
 
What genre of music do you play and what drums sounds are you trying to create ?
Did you watch any of the video tutorials on mixing drums in BFD2 ?
 
It's something that I found incredibly daunting for a long time but once I started watching videos and occasionally dipping in to the manual I was so glad I did.
 
Steve
 
2013/10/23 22:25:21
vintagevibe
twaddle
But to my ears the sound quality of addictive drums in quite poor in comparison to both BFD2, BFD3 and even BFD Eco. They are very compressed and they sound it too.
 


Most of the presets are quite compressed but you have total control over compression in Addictive Drums.
2013/10/24 05:29:51
twaddle
No, I'm talking about the compression that is applied before hand, the raw files that come with addictive drums are pre compressed and at a lower bit rate and it's very clear when I compare them to the raw sounds in BFD2. Addictive drums use a lossy-mp3-like compression that has less dynamic range. Also there are far fewer velocity layers which might not be as apparent when all the effects are turned on but are much more apparent when they're turned off.
Turning off the effects does not get rid of the pre processing.
 
Steve
2013/10/24 23:37:29
vintagevibe
twaddle
No, I'm talking about the compression that is applied before hand, the raw files that come with addictive drums are pre compressed and at a lower bit rate and it's very clear when I compare them to the raw sounds in BFD2. Addictive drums use a lossy-mp3-like compression that has less dynamic range. Also there are far fewer velocity layers which might not be as apparent when all the effects are turned on but are much more apparent when they're turned off.
Turning off the effects does not get rid of the pre processing.
 
Steve


But you really don't know if that is a result of data compression or recording technique.
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