gregjazz

• $89 USD
  
  More details and audio demos coming soon!

 

Like 50% off for all group buy members?
 
Sweeeeeeeeeeet!!!!!

gregjazz

Announcing SLIDE Acoustic Guitar Library from Orange Tree Samples. Coming Mid October 2013.

• Extensively sampled--Approx. 3 GB total
• Duration-dependent release samples
• Palm mute and slide tap articulations
• Performance Effects: muted string plucks, string slaps, chugs
• Timbre-correct slides - correct timbre of the guitar is preserved when sliding from one note to another
• Realistic exciting of the strings when sliding or playing vibrato
• 3 dynamic layers, 2x round-robin
• Compatible with KONTAKT 4/5 (full versions)
• $89 USD
  
  More details and audio demos coming soon!

 

• Realistic exciting of the musicians/sample users when they learn about the new acoustic slide guitar library from Orange Tree Samples. 

So, everyone, which libraries did you pick up and what do you think? Have a favorite or two or three?

I have been playing with EB-Rick last night and today.  It really sounds great!  Amazingly authentic.  The factory presets are fantastic and get you close to Rush or Yes or Lemmy or any of the bass heroes who used Ricks.  
 
My only concern is that it is a real memory hog.   So, I followed Bitflipper's note above and created/saved some instruments nki's with only 4 round robins for each of the Bridge, Middle, Neck and the whole Bass instruments.  Even just using 4 round robbins this OTS Rick came very close to maxing out my memory on my home office machine, which has 8gigs.  If I load 8 round robins patches I get memory warnings.  I had to use the "purge" setting in Kontakt to lower the memory consumption, which is okay as it then only loads the samples actually used in the specific project.  I can then save that purged patch for that project as a patch and the Rick acts more like other Kontakt intruments with more normal or modest memory demand.  If I try to load any other Kontakt instruments on top of the full instrument with 8RR I get memory warnings.  At first the Rick patch even crashed my office system yesterday, but that was trying to run more Round Robins.  So, my advice is to make some smaller sizes of the nki's.  Here are the files I made/saved to fit my office DAW. 
 
Full Rick instrument 4RR nki  which uses 3.47GB= 91% of usable ram
Full Rick instrument 8RR nki  which uses 3.95gb = 95% of usable ram
Bridge 4RR 3.23GB = 87% of usable ram
Middle 4RR 3.22GB = 87% of usable ram
Neck 4RR  3.23GB = 87% of usable ram
Neck 8RR 3.69GB = 94% of usable ram
 
I have not yet tried any of the OTS products I just bought in this group buy on my home studio DAW which has more memory= 16GB memory.  Obviously it will handle OTS EB Rick better and more round robins.  
 
BTW, I also tried Strawberry Electric and Acoustic-Steel; neither of these were memory demanding instruments.  They had "normal" or modest memory demand in Kontakt
 
I should state AGAIN that the sound of this OTS Rick is amazing.  I have owned several Ricks before and still own a vintage 4003 Mapleglo.  To my ears the OTS Rick sounds very authentic to me.  My only concern is the heavy memory consumption and the fact that I may have to use "freeze" on the track with the Rick the first time throuch or at least use "Purge" and save that as a preset for that specific project.  I probably will choose to use Cakewalk's SI Bass to first lay down the track, and then replace it with OTS Rick once the editing of the midi is done.  Like Bitflipper said above, I suspect that replacing other Bass tracks with the OTS Rick will make the bass stand out in the mix.  Good advice sir!
 
Summary==Great, authentic sounding instrument, but very demanding on memory.

What is Kontakt's DFD buffer size set to on your system? It seems like something unusual is going on, because Evolution Electric Bass Rick shouldn't be using that much memory.
 
Off the top of my head, I believe the 4x round-robin mode should be using around 350 MB or so. With the full 32x round-robin loaded, it should be using around 0.73 GB of RAM.

Thanks Greg for asking.  My dfd is set to 240000.  Don't know why it is set that high, but seems like it was recommended to deal with large sample libraries.  What should it be set at to run OTS Rick optimally?
 
Again, the OTS Rick sounds amazing.  Glad to know that it should not take this much of the memory.
 
 [Edit:  I just lowered the DFD to 30000 and it is loading the samples faster and taking up less memory to finish the load.  Thanks for helping and checking up on us]

I forgot to mention in my previous post that I also adjusted my DSD buffer. I'd previously had it set to a specific size, I forget now what it was - 192kB maybe. I'd had it set up that way for years and never had any problems with other libraries. All I did was un-check the option, which then allows the library to set the buffer size automatically. That reduced my RAM usage to around 730-740MB with the default nki, and about 340MB with my reduced 4RR nki. 
 
I only have 4GB of RAM, but this is the first time I've ever had to tweak memory settings to use a Kontakt library. So yeh, I'd have to agree that the Rick is a bit memory-hungry. But not out of line with other large sample libraries such as Superior Drummer and Indiginus' Solid State Symphony. 

I think the default value for the DFD buffer is 64 KB. Mine is set a little lower, around 48 KB--the instruments load faster and take less RAM that way, and I haven't notice any problems in performance.
 
Of course, if you have your samples on an SSD you can actually set the DFD buffer even lower, in the 4 KB range, but that's still a very expensive option considering how much space you'd need for modern sample libraries.

bitflipper
I only have 4GB of RAM, but this is the first time I've ever had to tweak memory settings to use a Kontakt library. So yeh, I'd have to agree that the Rick is a bit memory-hungry. But not out of line with other large sample libraries such as Superior Drummer and Indiginus' Solid State Symphony.

I should change the default starting RR setting in Evolution Electric Bass Rick to 4x RR like you suggested. It's also worth noting that if you reduce the legato range in the settings section, that will unload unused legato samples, saving you more memory.
 
Would it be useful to have light versions of the patches?

Thanks Greg and Bitflipper for the info.  Really helpful!  
 
Greg, yes I think a "light preset" would be helpful to many users--especially those with smaller ram sizes.  I also realize my issue was my hiigh DFD setting in Kontakt coupled with the lower ram size on my home office DAW.  [My studio DAW has 16gigs so it will not be an issue there, but I will check the DFD setting to make sure it works well].  At the very least I have made some usable 4RR patches for Rick.
 
I just lowered the DFD setting again in Kontakt.  By doing this, the OTS Rick loads quickly and does not tax my office Daw.  Thanks for this advice!  [[Edit:  I just unchecked the DFD box, and the Rick loads quicker, even the full 32RR loads fine.  So, I think I learned a lot from this purchase.]]
 
Again, the sound quality of OTS Rick is OUTSTANDING.  Well worth the effort to get it tweaked for my system.  Thanks for helping us out.