cecelius2
I am interested in Strawberry Electric and Acoustic Steel Strings, but have a question for you who own the Acoustic Steel.  Does it have a "strummer" or a strumming step sequencer like the one in the Strawberry Electric?  I can't find reference or videos that show strumming the Acoustic.

Yes.

I'm on the fence between OTS Acoustic Guitar and the ones from Amplesound. Based on Greg's posts, I'll likely jump on OTS, but does anyone have both?
 
Regards,
Dan
 

Glyn Barnes

cecelius2
I am interested in Strawberry Electric and Acoustic Steel Strings, but have a question for you who own the Acoustic Steel.  Does it have a "strummer" or a strumming step sequencer like the one in the Strawberry Electric?  I can't find reference or videos that show strumming the Acoustic.

Yes.

The answer is "no."   I've got EAG and there is no strumming step seqeuncer as there is on the electric version.  I have no idea why.

SmokeyJ628
The answer is "no."   I've got EAG and there is no strumming step sequencer as there is on the electric version.  I have no idea why.

I am not at my DAW and I can't check now, but I am sure there was a strum sequencer. I prefer my strum triggers in a MIDI track so its not a feature I use so its not inconceivable I was mistaken. IFRC there was an update. Are you sure you have the latest version.

Glyn Barnes

SmokeyJ628
The answer is "no."   I've got EAG and there is no strumming step sequencer as there is on the electric version.  I have no idea why.

I am not at my DAW and I can't check now, but I am sure there was a strum sequencer. I prefer my strum triggers in a MIDI track so its not a feature I use so its not inconceivable I was mistaken. IFRC there was an update. Are you sure you have the latest version.

 
Yep, I'm running the July 2013 update version as we speak.  There is no strum sequencer as shown on the Electric version's youtube vid.  I wish it did have that as I prefer a strum sequencer.
 
For the record, EAG is still great. 

 
I found these two replies from Greg in a post at the KVR forums...... http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=349007&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15&sid=2e2e30d6288e3b90c647df26feb8c6f5
 
 
 
"You're right--I actually have a couple of MIDI patterns that could be easily converted to Evolution's native strumming pattern format for starters. The nice thing is that the same pattern files will work in both EEG Strawberry as well as EAG Steel Strings."
 
 
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"The blank preset is called "- Init Preset -.nka". It's in the data folder where all the other presets are.

As for the strumming patterns, check out these two video tutorials on how to load and use them as well as make your own patterns:

http://youtu.be/0rC9cZKGuDo
http://youtu.be/y5H4lOev9no

The built-in pattern editor was discontinued a while ago because of its limitations--for example, using triplets and more complex rhythms as well as patterns longer than a measure. The nice part about the new system is that you can create the pattern within your DAW itself, giving you a more familiar work environment as well as all the creation capabilities accessible there."

gregjazz
I know exactly what you mean--there's nothing worse than playing and having a random round-robin sample stick out like a sore thumb. When recording the round-robin samples for EEB Rick, I played everything as consistently and naturally as possible.
 
Depending on how much memory you want to allot to EEB Rick, you can set different round-robin amounts. Personally, I usually keep it at 4x round-robin, and then boost the setting to the full 32x right before rendering.
 
Another issue you touched on is the unpredictability of round-robin. It can be a nuisance having to render a track several times until you get *just* the right round-robin samples happening in the right places. That's why in EEB Rick, the round-robin automatically resets after a second or so of silence just to keep things more predictable. And just in case, there's also a round-robin reset key that you can press to manually reset the round-robin.

And this is why you are the king of bass sample libraries, Greg. Being able to select the degree of round-robin-ness is a great feature.

Yes, EAG does have a strum sequencer, and comes with a strum pattern library. You can load a bunch of patterns and switch between them with keyswitches.
 

bitflipper
Yes, EAG does have a strum sequencer, and comes with a strum pattern library. You can load a bunch of patterns and switch between them with keyswitches.
 

I think there's confusion on what we're talking about.  Acoustic DOES have what bit describes above.  But that's not a strumming STEP sequencer.
 
Electric does have one it would seem although perhaps it was discontinued (as found in the quote above) in favor of letting users use their DAW's sequencers?
 
Here's the video--Indeed, it appears this is an old feature:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRp9cD4cThI
 
EDIT:  I'm not trying to come across harsh.  I just think some may have misinterpreted the original question.   I'll also admit that maybe I'm the one that misinterpreted.

The step sequencer was left out back when the Evolution engine updated to Kontakt 4 in favor of a strumming recording system. The strumming recording system relies on your DAW's own sequencer for pattern creation. These patterns are then transferred into Evolution, and are saved as pattern files that can be recalled whenever you need them.
 
The nice part about the system is that the patterns can be as many measures long as you need. You can also use complex rhythms, and work in the familiar environment of your DAW's sequencer rather than a limited built-in sequencer.
 
The downside is that there's the extra step when creating patterns of transferring the patterns into Evolution. Also, it's not as convenient for creating quick, simple strumming patterns as a built-in simple pattern editor would be.
 
Right now I'm planning out the next update for the Evolution guitar engine, which will make several major updates. A lot of the changes and additions are based on suggestions I've received over the time that the Evolution guitars have been available. Here's an example of some of the things I want to do:
 
- Upgrade the tone preset system to be like Evolution Electric Bass - Rick, so that you can quickly scroll through factory presets (with their names being shown on the interface) as well as having the usual option of loading and saving external preset files. You can see this system here: http://youtu.be/fXMYHxGaT6w
 
- New built-in pattern sequencer. A step sequencer approach to make pattern editing fast and convenient. For better MIDI integration (e.g. the ability to drag MIDI sequences out of Evolution into your DAW), I would need to use Kontakt 5. I'm still undecided on that aspect, since I always like supporting Kontakt 4 when possible.
 
- Articulation mapping system like what's in EEB Rick. It's easy and intuitive to use, and allows you to get a better idea of the entire mapping from looking at the setup: http://youtu.be/f422i90-iSM
 
- Better expandability. This factor won't affect the end user as much, but will make it much easier for me to release additional guitars faster, not to mention being a flexible system for adding guitars with 7+ strings, different numbers of frets, different assortments of articulations, and so forth.