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My wife gets up defore the sun and has coffee etc. This morning she took something to the mailbox about 7:45. It was light but not bright yet, sun just coming up. She came back in and thankfully deadbolted the door. About 10 minutes later someone tried the handle on the door four times. Our dors to the outside are all handles. She said that the cat had come in and was sleeping beside her. The cat jumped up and ran to the door. It scared the wife into immobility, she did get up and go into a part of the hall, just past the kitchen where she would be hidden. I wish she had gone to the door and opened the shutters, then again if she had done that and seen someone they may have kicked the door in.
The alarm people are coming, should be here any time now. I am going to have CC cameras installed outside.
I went out and checked the front yard, and the lawns across the street and next door. They are sod and with the morning dew they show any tracks. The only tracks were from a small animal, probably the cat. However, there is a wooded patch on both sides of our house and woods in the back. I think I am going to get a couple of trail cams too.
I am staying home today because she is afraid. We are going to a shooting range so she can get more comfortable with a handgun, I just hope she will keep it handy. In the meantime I think I will keep a 12 guage handy for her, unless the grandkids are over. I keep my .40 cal chambered unless the kids are coming over. I figure if trouble is coming at you it will be coming fast and I have no intention of keeping my gun and my magazine in different places... or my guns locked up in some box. we have home invasions in the metro Atlanta area and they don't give you time to got prepare.
So.. new cameras coming to the house.
Does anyone know if they, being wireless, make for any audio interference? Anything I can head off or should consider?
 
I think this guy, whoever it was, is inexperienced... someone who will progress into more boldness and either rape and rob, maybe kill some homeowner or get killed himself. If he comes back around here he will be on camera and if he comes in here and I am here it will be the last house he comes into. You know, it takes a bit of boldness to actually walk up and try someones door...
 
I hate it because now my wife feels insecure at her own home. We have a screen porch on the back with a couple of chaise lounge chairs where she likes to nap. Maybe it is time to get another couple of dogs, a small one and a big one. The small one to wake up the big one. I had airedales when I was young, maybe it is time for another one. They don't take any BS off any one.
 
Maybe I will get some night vision goggles too.
 
Any ideas?
 
J

 
 
 
First I'm glad everyone is safe.
 
 
No disrespect intended here but I know many an expert at the firing range.
 
 
Hitting some stationary target, even a moving target under a controlled setting is a whole different ballgame then hitting something when you're under stress.
 
 
When the s**t hits the fan there's a pretty good chance the average gun owner is not going to hit what they're aiming at; no matter how well-trained they are.
 

You know... I agree, aiming is really not the right thing to do. I wholly subscribe to the theory of "under stress" just use the gun as if it were another finger, part of your hand... point and shoot. You have to want to hit too. If you subcoiciously really do not want to shoot someone, you're likey to miss.. same with a deer. If you really don't want to kill it, you can aim and probably miss.
Just naturally, point and shoot. I have read accounts of women in the 19th century with no training, but under stress being a noticably better shot than men with experience, though I think that those with experience under stress and who have killed are much more deadly. We are not in that sort of time so I do think that knowing how to chamber a bullet, knowing how to cock and fire, and when your gun is off safety is likely the best place to be in a "close quarters" defense scenario. I could be wrong, but I'll only be wrong once... LOL.
I wont miss though. I know to not hurry and to shoot to kill, at least three shots and when down a head shot. I know to not shoot to wound. Those who overthing are likely to miss and those who hurry are very likely to miss... but my .40 clips hold 15 rounds with one in the chamber, my STG-44 .22 holds 30 rounds per magazine and I have 5 mags. The 12 guage of course holds 4 because I don't want it chambered. The Nambu holds 5 or 6 according to the clip, (it is a very accurate gun), the .357 holds two, it is a derringer. The 16 guage is a 5 shot shotgun (Remington 1100), Winchester model 93 .22 holds maybe 15 or 20, not sure. Going to get wifey a 9mm next week, possibly a .380, not sure.
I am thining about dressing up like her tomorrow morning, going to the mailbox in her robe, some back and leave the door unlocked, and see if anyone wants some. I guess it could be considered a "Setup" but I consider it a way to protect my family. I guess I could quickly change clothes if anything happens.It really pisses me off that someone would scare my wife and do who knows what if they got inside... that really changes things IMO.
 
I think the trailcams and night vision will tell the tale and remove the need for violence. I don't know... I have a line of thought that tells me I should completely remove the threat.
 
J

Guitarhacker
Of course, you know I'll offer my 2 cents
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2gCFOtaZPo
 
or
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_E5ciYpA98
 
Having the proper training and the proper weapon in a situation such as this is invaluable.  Advanced tactical training with her chosen, preferred weapon is worth every penny. Understand the laws of your state is a MUST. You have to know when and where and under what conditions you can pull the trigger in your own house because in some states it is murder or attempted,  and in other states it is self defense.
 
Look up your local concealed carry firearm instructor (unless you live in NJ, NY, DC, MD, DE or Il ) and take their basic CCW course if you haven't already done so. You get basic firearm handling and a fairly good over view of the laws pertinent to your state, and ask about advanced training that actually trains in stressful conditions.
 
Forced entry in NC is totally at the risk of the assailant.  Gotta love this state. The law has been tested and in all cases the perps were shot or killed and no charges were brought when it was determined to be B&E with mal-intent.
 
It is very important to lock all doors immediately upon entering. A security system will give a sense of security so that you know that no one is hiding inside.  Don't fall victim to the security company and load up with all the bells and whistles.... camera's are generally not needed. If you want a camera, go by a deer trail camera for $100 and it will work just as good if not better and certainly a whole lot cheaper. 
 
Just my advice.
 
Be safe.

Georgia is a lt like NC. One local deputy told a friend, regarding a situation, that if he had to shoot the guy who was giving him trouble outside, drag him inside. The guy who works for me.. his son called the police because he got a whipping. The deputy listened and then asked my friend if he wanted to borrow his belt. We have decent laws here. I really don't think anything will come of it however, I have to make it so that my wife is not scared to live in her own house... and will do whatever I must to get her comfort level back where it should be.
J

You could get her a taser. Not one that shoots out the wires but the ones you jam into your attacker for close up situations. Guns have their place in home protection but can sometimes be impractical especially if someone gets the drop on you. Some people freeze up too and don't pull the trigger right away which can lead to an even more dangerous situation. With a taser she doesn't have to walk around the house packing heat and worrying about all the stuff that comes along with that (like accidental discharges or whatever) or scurrying to grab it in an emergency. Then if something happens she can zap the fooker and grab a gun/call the cops while scummo is twitching on the ground.
 
A couple other thoughts... get a bunch of dummy cams to go along with your real cameras and set them up all over the place. That way they'll think they are being watched from more angles than they are without bankrupting you.
 
Another thing would be to set up a panic room. Doesn't have to be anything crazy. Just a room that has a solid door with drop bars and deadbolts and sturdy walls that are easily smashed through. Keep a landline and a charged up cel phone in there as well as some guns (cel phone in case  someone cuts the phone line). First sign of trouble she can haul ass in there. Just having a room like that might make her feel more secure.
 
I'm sorry this happened. It's a scary world but I hope you guys don't let it mess with your heads too much. It might have just been some mentally ill or or drunk but harmless person walking by who was all spaced out. I've had people do weird things like that and one chick even got into my house (against IMPOSSIBLE odds... like she's lucky she didn't plummet to her death) and they were just spaced out zombies who really weren't a threat.
 
Still better safe than sorry. I hear Atlanta can get pretty rough. Sucks people have gotta be scary ****s. Maybe you should move up here? We still have freaks in Canada but probably a lot less than you guys. Cheers.

Huh... I wrote arseholes except  not arse. You figure the filter would at least get the amount of stars right while censoring us.
 

That stuff is not my style Beep... I am not going to set up a Panic room, I am not going to change any of the things I do out of fear or for the safety or protection of a predator. Screw him. I resent having my freedoms infringed because of musim terrorists. I can only carry a clear bag to a NFL game. 25 years ago we could carry coolers to events. I am very much against giving up ANY freedom for safety... I'd rather risk being blown up. On the other hand I think regular, decent people should be free to take out the trash, as it were. Authorities should be free to profile as they see fit, then regular free people could keep more of their freedom. If those who are profiled get tired of it perhaps they would start to put peer pressure on those who are causing them to have trouble. Stuff runs downhill and it needs to be running. Maybe I am just too old for this world...
 
Trailcams are camo and strapped to trees, these do not flash, glow, or click and one of them sends everythingin real time to my phone. The other one I'll just put near the side door. If anyone gets in I will just shoot them. We are double checking the locks and I can pretty much be here when she is. She is going to be gone next Saturday. I may leave the shades open, get up early and disguise myself as her, take a walk to the mailbox and leave the side door ajar... and see what happens. If nothing, good, if no pictures, good... if there is a threat I want to take care of it, not let it hang around and wait. It is like was, a small war but still like a war and in any war you need things in your control. On your ground. If someone wants to lurk in the woods and try to come in my huse after my wife... they are fair game and if I can make it happen, they will have to deal with me and I will not be fair to them. I will do my best to give them absolutely no chance... just to be clear.
 
J

Not sure about the whole ready, fire , aim philosophy.
 
Paranoia is a good policy to start with. Not to be a scared homeowner, but to cast doubt into the minds of possible perps. Lights, camera etc. A known stockpile of weapons is probably an enticement.
 
This was in todays paper: http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/small-business/9311626/Hunting-cameras-the-in-thing-for-home-security
 
 
 
 

I'm glad everything's OK, Julien.  I kind of like the idea of a dog or two.  A little protection and some companionship.   Rhodesian Ridgebacks are particularly good for this kind of thing.  They're very friendly with people they know and very protective if a stranger shows up.  I'm sure there are other breeds that will do well also, but there's nothing like a dog the size of a grayhound on steroids barking at someone who doesn't belong. 

A big bowl and bone outside the door is cheaper.
 
But I love motion-operated cameras!

Say Hello to my little friend .....ooopppsss,  I mean , my imaginary little friend 
 

 
 
 
this topic gets me going ...i had to make this pic just to calm down ...
 
Kenny
 
 

 
Did anyone ever get around to calling 911?