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2013/09/18 19:44:15
clintmartin
Well crap! I watched the stupid video and that default snare sounds awesome. Guess I'll have to buy this too! I want soooo many things.
2013/09/18 19:53:21
cecelius2
Yea.  i looked at the Toontrack video and it was pretty clear that these are heavily processed so that you don't have to do much to them.  There are some dry kits, but the majority look and sound highly processed.  
 
Having said that, it looks like a lot of bang for the buck in that there are a boatload of cymbals and 8 kits.  I wonder, however, if these 8 klts are just different processed versions of what we have already with different EZX libraries, and perhaps all those cymbals are already available if you already own most of the other EZX libraries.  Not sure, but would be interested in hearing if the components are new, or just further processed versions of EZX kits what we already have.
2013/09/18 19:55:10
bapu
cecelius2
 but would be interested in hearing if the components are new, or just further processed versions of EZX kits what we already have.


In this age of presets (or mindmelds as McQ is liken to call them) does it really matter?
2013/09/18 20:29:02
clintmartin
I don't mind at all if a famous engineer wants to process my drums.
2013/09/18 20:33:09
Bajan Blue
Mod Bod
Many thanks, that's exactly what I wanted to know.
So although I have decided to buy nothing else until next year, just the one exception perhaps!!
Cheers
Nigel
 
 
2013/09/18 21:43:36
Dave Modisette
The kits are made up of previously recorded TT samples with Neil Dorfman's own personally recorded sample collection layer over them and processed to his liking.

As mentioned previously, I would guess this is targeted at people who like the Slate sample collections.  This collection has a flavor and isn't really meant to be tweaked a great deal.
2013/09/18 22:53:58
cecelius2
Thanks for the info Mod Bod; I thought they were somewhat replicates.  Given that they are over-layered with Dorfman's samples and processed, they will probably have a slightly different character or tone to them.  To be honest, even though I initially was skeptical when I watched the video, upon further reflection I will also probably purchase these--well once these are heavily discounted later this year by Audiodeluxe I will.  
 
Like BAPU implies above, we pay for presets. One way of looking at this is that this EZX is kind of like getting extra "producer presets" but instead of it being for an SDX where such are usually found it is for an EZX.
2013/09/19 09:48:43
Dave Modisette
cecelius2
Thanks for the info Mod Bod; I thought they were somewhat replicates.  Given that they are over-layered with Dorfman's samples and processed, they will probably have a slightly different character or tone to them.  To be honest, even though I initially was skeptical when I watched the video, upon further reflection I will also probably purchase these--well once these are heavily discounted later this year by Audiodeluxe I will.  
 
Like BAPU implies above, we pay for presets. One way of looking at this is that this EZX is kind of like getting extra "producer presets" but instead of it being for an SDX where such are usually found it is for an EZX.


To be honest with you, all through testing, I didn't have a clue that they were using some of the previously released samples because they all sound new and different because of the layering and processing.  I found out about the layering of the Dorfman samples because the hits (samples) were louder than we expected them to be.  This is a "produced" sample collection so I would advise to listen to some of Dorfman's work or relate them to the artists he produces and engineers.  It's all about commercial sounding drums and not so much about "realism" or an organic playing sample collection (in a drummer's perspective.) 
 
It reminds me of "show dogs" that you would see at a typical Dog Show.  It's incredible how many unnatural things you have to do to these dogs (and force them to endure) in order to make them look like the best of their breed.
2013/09/19 10:32:13
michaelhanson
For that reason, I would probably really like this release.  I don't like to do a ton of work on processing the drums.  I would rather have them be close to what I am looking for and only have to tweak the EQ and levels a little to make the other instruments fit around them.  
 
When I started using Slate Drums in many of my recordings, suddenly I was getting quite a few comments about how good the drums were sounding in my demo's.  I even sent a track to Danny to have him give it a quick listen and one of the comments back from him was.."what drum samples are you using, they sound killer".  I guess, why not use the processing done by a pro, if it fits for your songs and style?
2013/09/19 12:40:12
clintmartin
@Makeshift....Amen brother!
 
 
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