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  • Windows 10 will be the last OS (p.9)
2015/06/14 19:36:02
Alex B.
My Cakewalk 3.1 doesn't support Windows 3.1.
And MS doesn't aswer me.
2015/06/15 20:21:37
kevinwal
Alex B.
My Cakewalk 3.1 doesn't support Windows 3.1.
And MS doesn't aswer me.


It'll probably run fine on Windows 10. I did it! Back on topic!
2015/06/16 00:31:58
YouDontHasToCallMeJohnson
First home computer was an Amiga 1000, Jan 1985. 256 k memory, two floppy drives, two button mouse, context menus, color, and stereo sound. One of the first time slicing OSs.
 
Too bad Commodore bought it and drowned it.
 
Just like Creative bought and killed EMU.
 
And so on,...
2015/06/17 15:44:28
silverfire
Sycraft
No catch, MS wants to get everyone on Windows 10. They had some really bad press with Windows 8 (despite it actually being quite a good OS) and they don't want Windows 7 to turn in to another XP where people refuse to upgrade because they are convinced it is the last good OS ever. So they are trying to convince people to upgrade, and making the upgrade free makes it that much more tempting. They are hoping they can get the large majority of the Windows user base on to Windows 10 in a timely fashion.
 
We'll see if it works.


This. MS got bad press for nearly every big (non-incremental) OS launch. Vista had terrible press, despite it being pretty solid as time went on. (7 isn't ALL that different) 8 did horribly with the press, 8.1 curbed it a little. Combination of people needing time to adjust to new user interfaces, and Microsoft needing a bit of time to add polish. When you combine that with something you need to shell out a $100 or more for, there are high expectations, and a high tendency to be critical. (For good reason) With a free launch, there's little to lose, and reviewers and users alike will be more likely to go easy on it during the initial ramp-up. They'll get the type of traction they want with less negative press, and ultimately get all the paid sales that they are looking for anyways.
2015/06/17 17:18:49
interpolated
I hate to be a nitpick.....generally speaking...
2015/06/17 21:48:08
Larry Jones
silverfire
So they are trying to convince people to upgrade, and making the upgrade free makes it that much more tempting. They are hoping they can get the large majority of the Windows user base on to Windows 10 in a timely fashion.

It's an operating system. It's not optional software like a DAW or a word processor. If it's hard to learn or hard to use or buggy, it won't matter if it's free or they ship each one with a bag of cash. People will complain. Remember U2's iPhone "gift"?
2015/06/17 23:34:27
kevinwal
Larry Jones
silverfire
So they are trying to convince people to upgrade, and making the upgrade free makes it that much more tempting. They are hoping they can get the large majority of the Windows user base on to Windows 10 in a timely fashion.

It's an operating system. It's not optional software like a DAW or a word processor. If it's hard to learn or hard to use or buggy, it won't matter if it's free or they ship each one with a bag of cash. People will complain. Remember U2's iPhone "gift"?


But it is optional. No one need upgrade. By the way, thanks for that link, Larry Jones! Best quote: "We are now scraping the bottom of the barrel of first world problems." I daresay that with a free Windows 10 in the offing we are poised to scrape ever deeper. In the new reality free is a symptom of corporate evil.
2015/06/18 01:38:46
Larry Jones
kevinwal
Larry Jones
silverfire
So they are trying to convince people to upgrade, and making the upgrade free makes it that much more tempting. They are hoping they can get the large majority of the Windows user base on to Windows 10 in a timely fashion.

It's an operating system. It's not optional software like a DAW or a word processor. If it's hard to learn or hard to use or buggy, it won't matter if it's free or they ship each one with a bag of cash. People will complain. Remember U2's iPhone "gift"?


But it is optional. No one need upgrade. By the way, thanks for that link, Larry Jones! Best quote: "We are now scraping the bottom of the barrel of first world problems." I daresay that with a free Windows 10 in the offing we are poised to scrape ever deeper. In the new reality free is a symptom of corporate evil.


What I meant was you can't run your computer without an OS, so in that sense it's not optional. True, existing users need not jump in, but there will be many PC sales and they will all have Windows 10 preinstalled. And this may be a myth, but I think I have read or heard somewhere that you can't revert to your previous OS if you accept Microsoft's free offer. If that's true, it's kind of a pisser in and of itself. I'm sure we'll find good reasons to complain about the free OS.
2015/06/18 01:53:45
kevinwal
No doubt.
2015/06/18 11:37:32
vintagevibe
silverfire
This. MS got bad press for nearly every big (non-incremental) OS launch. Vista had terrible press, despite it being pretty solid as time went on. (7 isn't ALL that different) 8 did horribly with the press, 8.1 curbed it a little. Combination of people needing time to adjust to new user interfaces, and Microsoft needing a bit of time to add polish. When you combine that with something you need to shell out a $100 or more for, there are high expectations, and a high tendency to be critical. (For good reason) With a free launch, there's little to lose, and reviewers and users alike will be more likely to go easy on it during the initial ramp-up. They'll get the type of traction they want with less negative press, and ultimately get all the paid sales that they are looking for anyways.


It's not just bad press it's unhappy customers. Vista was a nightmare at launch. 8.0 was designed as if everyone had a touch screen. Nobody had a clue as to what to do after it booted. 8.0 was bad design, not just bad press.
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