Well, yor right acourse...but my tongue was only part way in my cheek.

Thanks a lot for all of the responses. I really appreciate your input.
 
BTW, I finally watched some of the fabfilter videos (which I had never given much notice until now) ... and will definitely demo those plugs ...
 
 

Is it really true that you can't email Waves with a problem unless you have purchased their support plan? Because I emailed them with a question about hiding 32 bit Wave plugs from my DAW and they replied very quickly with an answer. I don't have a support plan.

I also emailed them with the issue about stuttery GUI's, and had a bit of a to and fro with them about that (turns out its a problem with Waves and Sonar btw - the GUI's were perfectly smooth when I tried them in Pro Tools and Reaper).

Waves has gotten much more "customer centric".  All to the good IMO.

sharke
I also emailed them with the issue about stuttery GUI's, and had a bit of a to and fro with them about that (turns out its a problem with Waves and Sonar btw - the GUI's were perfectly smooth when I tried them in Pro Tools and Reaper).

I have the same jittery GUIs in Studio One, so at least in my case it's not just Sonar. 
 
Cheers,
Eddie
 

Billy Buck
 
The PCIe versions will always outperform FW. The only advantage to the Satellite is portability. When using FW (Satellite) you lose the LiveTrack mode option and the plug-in buffer is constrained to 512 samples latency per plug-in instance and you have to be mindful of buffering issues when using FW. If you have a choice go with the PCIe versions.

Does the PCI (e.g. quad/octo with 4/8 processors) get warm enough to cause heat issues or require additional cooling?

FreeFlyBertl

Billy Buck
The PCIe versions will always outperform FW. The only advantage to the Satellite is portability. When using FW (Satellite) you lose the LiveTrack mode option and the plug-in buffer is constrained to 512 samples latency per plug-in instance and you have to be mindful of buffering issues when using FW. If you have a choice go with the PCIe versions.

Does the PCI (e.g. quad/octo with 4/8 processors) get warm enough to cause heat issues or require additional cooling?

No,  UAD-2 cards are quite energy efficient and don't require any extra cooling. If possible, use a PCIe slot furthest from the video card.
 
Cheers,
 
Billy Buck

FreeFlyBertl

Billy Buck
The PCIe versions will always outperform FW. The only advantage to the Satellite is portability. When using FW (Satellite) you lose the LiveTrack mode option and the plug-in buffer is constrained to 512 samples latency per plug-in instance and you have to be mindful of buffering issues when using FW. If you have a choice go with the PCIe versions.

Does the PCI (e.g. quad/octo with 4/8 processors) get warm enough to cause heat issues or require additional cooling?

I've got two quads in my DAW and have never had a heat problem.

yorolpal
Waves has gotten much more "customer centric".  All to the good IMO.

I wish some "other" companies that frequent these boards would become so rather than customer combative..

musicman100 - I don't know about waves becoming more customer centric as I stopped dealing with them when they were most certainly NOT customer centric. They have done nothing since to existing customers like myself as far as I am concerned to change my opinion of them, although I obviously accept what others say. Perhaps they will try and woo me back one day!!!!
 
What my point is, is that I think we all know the Company you hint at (The Company) and the thread involved. The Company does seem to have a somewhat high opinion of itself as far as I am concerned. I was a very early adopter of THE PRODUCT, lets call it ST. I think I purchased mine around 2005? All I know is that not much if anything has changed about ST since then. I also have Ampeg SVX, Amplitube and Tracks - due to what happened with ST, I stopped upgrading Amplitube and occasionally use it. I used to love Ampeg but again have not upgraded and now it gets used very rarely. Tracks is in the draw and I will not spend anything on this until I see where The Company is going. So whilst I have managed to still use my ST based products (I have the full package) by keeping them installed on a 32bit machine then using Vienna Pro, the Company's attitude and apparent idirection, have not instilled me with confidence as to their long term plans with DAW users such as myself. So I don't spend money any more with them. Their latest high handed attitude in the thread you reference, has only gone to somewhat reinforce my poor opinion of them.
We shall see what transpires, but I'm not sure things look promising - unless ST upgrades are extensive, useful and reasonably priced, The Company might be joining Waves as far as I am concerned, as one I do not deal with.
Nigel