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2013/10/03 10:03:06
Ham N Egz
2013/10/03 10:18:43
Mesh
I completely agree with the message (minus the language) and admire Sinead's courage to openly state it. Hopefuly, Miley will take some note of it..... 
2013/10/03 10:23:30
Ham N Egz
Of course, it was posted in Reddit, and most of the 13 year  olds  who frequent there defended Miey and said its ok to make money like that
2013/10/03 10:43:49
Mesh
musicman100
Of course, it was posted in Reddit, and most of the 13 year  olds  who frequent there defended Miey and said its ok to make money like that


I wouldn't doubt it one bit. It's so sad to see these 13 yr olds accepting and defending this kind of behavior.......they're already corrupted at such a young age. A complete opposite of when I was growing up at 13.
I am soooooo glad we're homeschooling our children.........trying our best to preserve their innocence and give them a chance to be "children".
2013/10/03 12:20:06
Danny Danzi
I'll always be on the other side of the fence. This is the life you choose....exploit how you wish. It's the entertainment business. YOU choose how to entertain and how far to go. When you're an adult....kids should be supervised and blocked from seeing you if you are someone that would not be considered a role model.
 
Seriously.....it's time to stop making excuses and start parenting. The problem with this world (other than politicians that have ruined our America) is people are too young to be parents and can't take care of themselves let alone a child. Just go to a Burger King. In 10 seconds you'll see and hear kids running all over the store making noise while the parents sit there on cell phones ignoring that their children are making my dinner unpleasant to the point of me getting up and yelling at the top of my lungs "THIS IS REALLY ANNOYING" and then they get them under control.
 
Also, this is the 2000's. Old school mentaliy in a new world is not the answer. Meaning, acceptance. These days....Sinead should take a look at herself. She'd probably fail in today's times. It's not about talent. Miley knows this. Miley knows the business more than Sinead ever will. Remember, her father is Billy Ray....Miley knows about the business and doesn't need anyone telling her how to make money. So what if she acts out sexual stuff and makes good bread? Don't watch it. Stop your kids from watching it. This is America ffs where we allow the sludge of the world to come into our country and ruin it, sell drugs, murder innocent people.....yet it's so wrong for a young WOMAN (she is an adult) to decide for herself how she wants to make a living? If you ask me....if anyone has it right, it's Miley. How a person decides to make a living is on them. You have choices....look or don't look. Entertain or don't entertain. Hope you survive with talent alone in a world like we have today or work at Macy's. The choices are all there in front of us. No one is being forced on anything.
 
I also totally disagree about young girls looking up to Miley. Again, where are the parents? Parent to child: "Hannah is no more. She is now Miley Cyrus and is doing things to entertain adults. When you are older you can check her out, but right now you will not be allowed to buy her records or watch her perform or I will have to punish you." End of story...be a parent or don't have kids.
 
-Danny
2013/10/03 12:59:20
gswitz
Danny, do you have kids? Just curious.

I have a daughter. I try not to judge and with her, I default to yes. If she wants to build robots, we do. Record bubbles? Yep.

I read enormous amounts to her, and usually the things that perplex her the most are ideas.

I'm a parent which means to me that I strive to teach and protect.

I'm hopeful that love guides her actions now and in the future. It is what guides me when I'm in my right mind.
2013/10/03 12:59:58
sharke
Danny Danzi
I'll always be on the other side of the fence. This is the life you choose....exploit how you wish. It's the entertainment business. YOU choose how to entertain and how far to go. When you're an adult....kids should be supervised and blocked from seeing you if you are someone that would not be considered a role model.
 
Seriously.....it's time to stop making excuses and start parenting. The problem with this world (other than politicians that have ruined our America) is people are too young to be parents and can't take care of themselves let alone a child. Just go to a Burger King. In 10 seconds you'll see and hear kids running all over the store making noise while the parents sit there on cell phones ignoring that their children are making my dinner unpleasant to the point of me getting up and yelling at the top of my lungs "THIS IS REALLY ANNOYING" and then they get them under control.
 
Also, this is the 2000's. Old school mentaliy in a new world is not the answer. Meaning, acceptance. These days....Sinead should take a look at herself. She'd probably fail in today's times. It's not about talent. Miley knows this. Miley knows the business more than Sinead ever will. Remember, her father is Billy Ray....Miley knows about the business and doesn't need anyone telling her how to make money. So what if she acts out sexual stuff and makes good bread? Don't watch it. Stop your kids from watching it. This is America ffs where we allow the sludge of the world to come into our country and ruin it, sell drugs, murder innocent people.....yet it's so wrong for a young WOMAN (she is an adult) to decide for herself how she wants to make a living? If you ask me....if anyone has it right, it's Miley. How a person decides to make a living is on them. You have choices....look or don't look. Entertain or don't entertain. Hope you survive with talent alone in a world like we have today or work at Macy's. The choices are all there in front of us. No one is being forced on anything.
 
I also totally disagree about young girls looking up to Miley. Again, where are the parents? Parent to child: "Hannah is no more. She is now Miley Cyrus and is doing things to entertain adults. When you are older you can check her out, but right now you will not be allowed to buy her records or watch her perform or I will have to punish you." End of story...be a parent or don't have kids.
 
-Danny



The age at which people have kids makes a hell of a lot of difference. I'm not saying that everyone who has kids at a young age raises monsters because obviously there are exceptions, but it's just common sense. In the first few years of life, a child is like a tape recorder and soaks up everything. Language, behavior, attitudes. It's what shapes their core. So it's bound to make a difference when they're absorbing all of their cues from 18 year old parents as opposed to 30 year old parents. The difference in maturity between an 18 year old and a 30 year old is huge (in most cases). And then of course those kids grow up and have kids at 18 themselves and the whole thing just gets worse. It's not uncommon to be a grandparent at 40 these days. 
2013/10/03 13:34:08
Danny Danzi
gswitz
Danny, do you have kids? Just curious.

I have a daughter. I try not to judge and with her, I default to yes. If she wants to build robots, we do. Record bubbles? Yep.

I read enormous amounts to her, and usually the things that perplex her the most are ideas.

I'm a parent which means to me that I strive to teach and protect.

I'm hopeful that love guides her actions now and in the future. It is what guides me when I'm in my right mind.


No I don't have kids, but I have enough kids that I deal with here in my community on a daily basis. My house/back yard has always been the kid community. I know more about these kids (all flavors of kids too...black, white, puerto rican, oriental) than their own parents...so in a sense, you can say I have kids. I've parented them, listened to them, given them money, taken them places, given advice, taken advice and have strong-armed them when there was a necessity to do so.
 
I too teach and protect. I have no other choice since their own parents have sort of abandoned them due to having kids too early and not realizing how much of a responsibility it is. I'm simply blown away at the lack of parenting to where we blame society on our kids ending up in bad places. Though there IS that possibility, having parents that know how to parent can make a huge difference. It's like saying "Miley made my daughter a prostitute" is any more true than "that gun there killed my son".
 
Speaking of society...here's a little about me. From 5th grade on, drugs were available to me. Speed, ludes, meth, weed. By the time I was in 8th grade, people were getting high regularly. You were a dork if you didn't have sex by the 7th grade. You were an outcast if you didn't take a hit off a joint on the 8th grade school trips. You were a punk if you didn't fight back when you were pushed around. You were challenged on a daily basis. You'd be scared to death all day in school that the bully that threatened you would be waiting for you when you got off the bus. You hoped he got side-tracked and forgot...but he never did. You were so scared you'd literally come close to peeing in your pants until that first punch broke your lip open and you felt pain and heard children laugh, scream and cheer. I'd call that stress times 10000. The last thing on my mind in MY world would be some kid star turned adult turning me into something. I think it's all BS and overly hyped as an excuse for poor parenting....present company excluded.
 
-Danny
2013/10/03 13:38:22
Danny Danzi
sharke
Danny Danzi
I'll always be on the other side of the fence. This is the life you choose....exploit how you wish. It's the entertainment business. YOU choose how to entertain and how far to go. When you're an adult....kids should be supervised and blocked from seeing you if you are someone that would not be considered a role model.
 
Seriously.....it's time to stop making excuses and start parenting. The problem with this world (other than politicians that have ruined our America) is people are too young to be parents and can't take care of themselves let alone a child. Just go to a Burger King. In 10 seconds you'll see and hear kids running all over the store making noise while the parents sit there on cell phones ignoring that their children are making my dinner unpleasant to the point of me getting up and yelling at the top of my lungs "THIS IS REALLY ANNOYING" and then they get them under control.
 
Also, this is the 2000's. Old school mentaliy in a new world is not the answer. Meaning, acceptance. These days....Sinead should take a look at herself. She'd probably fail in today's times. It's not about talent. Miley knows this. Miley knows the business more than Sinead ever will. Remember, her father is Billy Ray....Miley knows about the business and doesn't need anyone telling her how to make money. So what if she acts out sexual stuff and makes good bread? Don't watch it. Stop your kids from watching it. This is America ffs where we allow the sludge of the world to come into our country and ruin it, sell drugs, murder innocent people.....yet it's so wrong for a young WOMAN (she is an adult) to decide for herself how she wants to make a living? If you ask me....if anyone has it right, it's Miley. How a person decides to make a living is on them. You have choices....look or don't look. Entertain or don't entertain. Hope you survive with talent alone in a world like we have today or work at Macy's. The choices are all there in front of us. No one is being forced on anything.
 
I also totally disagree about young girls looking up to Miley. Again, where are the parents? Parent to child: "Hannah is no more. She is now Miley Cyrus and is doing things to entertain adults. When you are older you can check her out, but right now you will not be allowed to buy her records or watch her perform or I will have to punish you." End of story...be a parent or don't have kids.
 
-Danny



The age at which people have kids makes a hell of a lot of difference. I'm not saying that everyone who has kids at a young age raises monsters because obviously there are exceptions, but it's just common sense. In the first few years of life, a child is like a tape recorder and soaks up everything. Language, behavior, attitudes. It's what shapes their core. So it's bound to make a difference when they're absorbing all of their cues from 18 year old parents as opposed to 30 year old parents. The difference in maturity between an 18 year old and a 30 year old is huge (in most cases). And then of course those kids grow up and have kids at 18 themselves and the whole thing just gets worse. It's not uncommon to be a grandparent at 40 these days. 




That's exactly what I was talking about Sharke.....great post!
2013/10/03 14:09:04
craigb
I never have problems with annoying people at fast food places.  Of course, I'm 6' 4", 250 lbs. and I like to bring a bloody chainsaw into the restaurant with me...
 
(As for the actual topic, anyone who knows about Sinead also knows that she's not exactly one who's qualified to tell others how to live and act.)
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