Currently feuding with Harrison....

I've got them over a barrel....

The email sent out states the following....

Mixbus now includes the Plug-In Essentials Bundle as part of the default package (MSRP $219)

that's a direct copy and paste...

It then goes on to state that I may CROSSGRADE to the NEW version for $39.....

So I told them that my purchase agreement entitled me to ALL updates to the 2.x series of Mixbus,
AND that I was entitled to the PE Pack for free...since, according to this email, this is NOW part of Mixbus,
AND they are obligated to provide to me at no charge....as it is now included in the DEFAULT package...
or, essentially, that it is NOW part of the Mixbus program....and therefore constitutes an UPDATE
to 2.3.1 to which I am entitled gratis....

They won't move....but it WILL be worth pursuing legally, as that would constitute "breach of contract",
contract being the "all updates to 2.x for FREE", as "adding" the PE Pack to the DEFAULT program
would constitute an UPDATE to the existing program.

Here's the info from the Website..


Mixbus 2

Features:
Full Digital Audio Workstation with file import, editing, and export.
Integrated Harrison mixing console with "True Analog Mixing"
Support for industry-standard plugins and audio interfaces.

Includes:
*Licensed Mixbus Application v2.3 for Windows, OSX, and Linux
*Harrison's renowned email support
*Free 2.X updates

 
I've saved all the emails and have "captured" their website info....so, we'll see how this shakes out...

I'm holding off on the PE until Larry wins his case.

Go Larry go... and best of luck, hope you win!!

Ok..end result...

They've changed their "wording" so that PE Pack is still an "add on" which is only included if you
pay the full price of $149...and is not included in "discounted" sales...

So no luck...

Obviously if this were a court case they would lose...

But still @$39 it's a great buy....coupon code PE39

If you miss the $39 deal you can still get it for $44 with coupon code SAVE25

Can't blame a guy for trying... =(

 
I read this explanation at the Harrison Website about why their Mixbus is better than my DAWs:
 
"From a technical standpoint, it is our opinion that the gross defects in many workstations include internal clipping, lacking dither stages in the DSP processing, insufficent ramping of dsp coefficients, multiple bit-depth/format conversions, out-of-control gain stages causing plugins to work outside their intended range, routing choices that cause latency/timing errors, inability to see meters such as compressor gain reduction without opening the plugin dialog, and poor user-interface integration."
 
 
Wow.

mike_mccue
 
I read this explanation at the Harrison Website about why their Mixbus is better than my DAWs:
 
"From a technical standpoint, it is our opinion that the gross defects in many workstations include internal clipping, lacking dither stages in the DSP processing, insufficent ramping of dsp coefficients, multiple bit-depth/format conversions, out-of-control gain stages causing plugins to work outside their intended range, routing choices that cause latency/timing errors, inability to see meters such as compressor gain reduction without opening the plugin dialog, and poor user-interface integration."
 
 
Wow.

So are you downloading your copy?

bapu
...Interesting that it's only 32bit right now, right?
 
I guess in my case that's OK since I always install both 32 and 64 bit versions of all VSTs I own...
 

I'm not sure if this is an update or not, or if it just refers to the Linux OS so far:
 
Features:
- Unlimited tracks with Harrison EQ, Filter, Compressor, and Bus Sends.
- 8 Stereo Mix Buses with Tone control, Compressor w/sidechain, and Tape Saturation.
- Master Bus with Tone control, Compressor, Limiter, Correlation meter and K-meter.
- Full DAW workstation features for recording, editing, and mix automation.
- Support for Audio Unit plugins and any Core Audio interface.(Mac OSX version)
- Support for LADSPA/LV2 plugins and any JACK-supported audio interface.(Linux version)
- *~32-bit and 64-bit OS supported ~*

jimusic

bapu
...Interesting that it's only 32bit right now, right?
 
I guess in my case that's OK since I always install both 32 and 64 bit versions of all VSTs I own...
 

I'm not sure if this is an update or not, or if it just refers to the Linux OS so far:
 
Features:
- Unlimited tracks with Harrison EQ, Filter, Compressor, and Bus Sends.
- 8 Stereo Mix Buses with Tone control, Compressor w/sidechain, and Tape Saturation.
- Master Bus with Tone control, Compressor, Limiter, Correlation meter and K-meter.
- Full DAW workstation features for recording, editing, and mix automation.
- Support for Audio Unit plugins and any Core Audio interface.(Mac OSX version)
- Support for LADSPA/LV2 plugins and any JACK-supported audio interface.(Linux version)
- *~32-bit and 64-bit OS supported ~*

Mixbus is only 64 bit in Linux....

But they are supposedly working on the 64 bit Windows version...we shall see...
I'm just happy my upgrade path is secured! This is definitely a program worth
having IMHO...and if they get MIDI support and 64 bit....I'll be a happy DAW-per(son)!
It's not the greatest DAW ever...but it sure sounds good....

I'll be curious to see just how in depth their MIDI implementation will be.
 
I'm less concerned about the 64 Bit timeline.

Hey guys,
 
Here's my take on MixBus vs. SONAR.
 
The setup. The CHB records all their track separately and then pools them in an online repository. I took the song with the least tracks. 16 to be exact.
 
I created a session in MixBus and I imported those tracks. I did a quick level and pan mix just so that nothing jumped out in the wrong place.
 
I created a fresh project in X2a and imported the exact same 16 files/tracks. Then I set the levels and pan that I set for the MixBus project.
 
ESPECIALLY NOTE: I put absolutely no FX of any kind in either project.
 
I've been A/B-ing them for about 30 minutes now.
 
My conclusion is that SONAR X2a is bit darker. Especially on the bass guitar which in this case has a distortion pedal that was burned into the track.
 
Now for $39 did I get overly WOWED? Not overly but I was impressed how out of the gate MixBus sounded tighter.
 
I guess what I'm saying is that for $149 I would not have thought I got that much worth out of it, but for $39 I am moderately impressed.
 
Footnote: TT-DR reported both exports at a DR of 13, however there was a discrepancy in the peak values:
 
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Statistics for: BTB-VER-A.wav
Number of Samples: 8158848
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                         left            right
Peak value: -1.00 dB ---   -1.00 dB
Avg RMS: -14.75 dB ---  -15.13 dB
DR channel: 12.45 dB ---  12.94 dB
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Official DR value: DR13
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Statistics for: BTB-VER-B.wav
Number of Samples: 7938048
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                        left                right
Peak value:        over ---     0.00 dB
Avg RMS:  -14.22 dB ---  -14.37 dB
DR channel: 13.10 dB ---  12.49 dB
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Official DR value: DR13
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If anyone is interested in obtaining the exports for their own A/B, PM me.