SteveStrummerUK
mike_mccue
I think there are a some folks that exist in a state of irony and hypocrisy.
I think that examples can be found at any point along the spectrum from ardent admirer through severe critic of the any Cakewalk's [sic] product or operation.
best regards,
mike
Mike, far be it for me to accuse you of being vague on occasion, but how can anyone "exist in a state of irony and hypocrisy"?
To me, your use of rather flowery language here, as is often the case, just makes it a bit easier for you to come back later and explain what you really meant when you get called on it.
And would you care to name names?
No Steve,
I don't care to call out names. For one thing I think the calling out of people in the third person is one of the primary bad habits of people that exist in a state of irony and hypocrisy. For another thing I like to admit when I fall into that practice and welcome suggestions of correction for it and so, if I have the sense to not do it I would rather just not do it. Finally, I feel that arguing or debating with any person, who isn't self aware enough to want to avoid making ironic or hypocritical statements, is useless so I prefer to ignore the persons whom I might identify as indulging in the habit. (to be clear... I am not implying that I am arguing with you or that you are one of those persons)
I don't think I was speaking in flowery terms, but you may. I don't do so to annoy you so I regret that it seems to have done so. I am certain that I am not being vague as some sort of tactic and if you feel that way I'll count on the idea that we can agree to disagree on that point.
In short I don't think the people I am referring to are capable of inferring that I am referring to them. I have learned to enjoy correspondence with people who know who they are and I try to ignore opportunities to argue with those who don't seem to know who they are.
Every now and then I lose my cool and I address some person directly and speak my mind.
I'm much to polite to do that in a third person context. :-)
Some one else here made a thoughtful post that sort of summarizes one aspect of how I feel and may offer some abstracted description of what I consider a commonly encountered symptom of irony and hypocrisy:
"If there's one thing I can't stand its negative comments about negative comments!" To be clear, that is not a vague implication that I think anyone involved in this discussion is speaking negatively. This thread seems to be a thoughtful discussion about stuff that seems hard to understand. For example; I really can't understand how people can contradict them selves repeatedly and expect other people to pay attention. It confuses me.
Anyways, I don't think I can be any clearer than that.
all the best,
mike